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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: blearyeyes on April 26, 2018, 09:48:26 PM

Title: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: blearyeyes on April 26, 2018, 09:48:26 PM
HOLY POOP! Why didn't somebody tell me?

https://www.dripelectronics.com
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: somnif on April 27, 2018, 12:06:32 AM
Those prices are astronomical for just the PCBs, am I missing something in the "we do not sell kits, just boards and parts lists" statement?
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: EBK on April 27, 2018, 12:12:24 AM
Hey, at least the ~$300 includes shipping!
I'm not at risk of spending money on these....
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: gordo on April 27, 2018, 12:29:17 AM
Safely out of my budget but would be very cool none the less.

I seem to recall never having any desire to build a synthesizer either...
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: alanp on April 27, 2018, 05:03:16 AM
Gordo, my inner cheapskate is saving me 8)

Very nice photography, but I don't really have any use for studio gear like that.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: lars on April 27, 2018, 02:54:36 PM
We need to agree right now that none of those qualify to be used in a "build of the year" contest. It wouldn't be fair! Those are some outstanding, beautiful designs; but just out-of-reach for most of us poor DIY'ers.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: blearyeyes on April 28, 2018, 01:44:46 AM

Some have cases and faceplates?

Just fell pray to the idea of having a nice unobtainium $4000.00 compressor or EQ for a grand... WHAT GRAND? You ask?

Oh yeah...

Momentary maniac hallucination.... 
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: blearyeyes on April 28, 2018, 01:47:37 AM
Quote from: lars on April 27, 2018, 02:54:36 PM
We need to agree right now that none of those qualify to be used in a "build of the year" contest. It wouldn't be fair! Those are some outstanding, beautiful designs; but just out-of-reach for most of us poor DIY'ers.

I wonder if any would fit in a 1590XX..?
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: gordo on April 28, 2018, 10:39:33 AM
I think there's a few folks around here that could cram it into a 1590A.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: peterc on April 30, 2018, 06:41:03 PM
Drip started off with a bang with these ridiculously priced PCBs. Granted his research has been impeccable, but still.....

Support is patchy at best, never expect an email reply and the forums are very quiet. Most buyers rely on Groupdiy for support.

So buyer beware....
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: blearyeyes on May 01, 2018, 01:05:10 AM
Yeah, too expensive for what it is. Same with all the other sites. 50 to 100 for a PCB might be worth it but I'm over the GAS effect.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: drezdn on May 01, 2018, 02:50:51 PM
If I could afford it, I'd be tempted, but it would need to include a faceplate.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: midwayfair on May 01, 2018, 06:10:34 PM
You know, guys, there's plenty of infinitely more reasonably-priced DIY gear available on GroupDIY ...

Hell, Hairball will sell you an entire aesthetically-accurate 1176A kit (including custom transformer reproductions) for less than some single PCBs on Drip. If you dig hard enough you can find PRR's modernized tube compressor and can probably get the PCB set for about $100 if someone will give it up, and that includes "collector's value" pricing.

Besides, let's consider the nature of "impeccable research" for some of the circuits whose schematics came taped to the inside of the device.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: ahiddentableau on May 01, 2018, 10:42:12 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on May 01, 2018, 06:10:34 PM

Besides, let's consider the nature of "impeccable research" for some of the circuits whose schematics came taped to the inside of the device.

Zing!  Nice one!  And oh so true.  If I remember right, drip got started doing a REDD47--not exactly the most complicated design in the world of over-venerated studio gear.

I'm with you.  I just can't understand anybody paying that kind of scratch for a freaking PCB or two.  For that kind of money he better fly his greedy butt to my house to massage my shoulders as he talks me through every little step in sweet, sweet dulcet tones.

On a different note, has anyone here actually built anything like a Hairball 1176?  I've always been curious about doing a project like that but I've pulled the trigger.

Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: blearyeyes on May 03, 2018, 07:16:48 AM
The Hairball FET compressor kit (D rev) with options is 640 bucks for the whole kit everything included for a rack mount. So a stereo set $1280.00

Hella lot cheaper than the real deal.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: blearyeyes on May 03, 2018, 07:47:59 AM
Nice mic pres. they have the stuff inum. Nice for $340.
I've never used a 500 rack are there any reasonably priced ones out there?
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: midwayfair on May 03, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: ahiddentableau on May 01, 2018, 10:42:12 PM
On a different note, has anyone here actually built anything like a Hairball 1176?  I've always been curious about doing a project like that but I've pulled the trigger.

I built this with the Hairball PCBs and transformers:

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=23045.msg225936#msg225936

(https://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/compressor-time-dual-1176.jpg?w=800)

I got it done in less than $350 total, but I didn't need a faceplate, the enclosure was on sale (CircuitSpecialists, IIRC), and I got really lucky with a couple good vintage VU meters for a mere $5 on Ebay.

The current Hairball project looks much better and easier to build than the one I used, too.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: blearyeyes on May 03, 2018, 09:10:29 PM
That's super nice! And super cheap. How do you like using it?
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: midwayfair on May 03, 2018, 09:50:41 PM
Quote from: blearyeyes on May 03, 2018, 09:10:29 PM
That's super nice! And super cheap. How do you like using it?

I haven't used it in a year, but I really liked it when I did. I ended up using it more for a final bus compressor (which is honestly what I built it for) than for tracking, but usually guitars or bass went through it. Also snare and stuff like that.

This stuff used it pretty extensively:
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/FAMW%202017.zip

I've engineered some other stuff since but they aren't my songs to share.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: ahiddentableau on May 03, 2018, 10:19:43 PM
That comp looks awesome.  I like how you used a rotary switch instead of that fussy 4 button panel that model uses.

Did you ever use it to goose a mic pre?  I've read that both the 1176 and the LA2A are good for getting an extra bit of gain for quiet sources or to drive other equipment.  I might have a use for that if it works.

Not that I'm trying to talk myself into finally building something like this or anything...  No, no, no...
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: midwayfair on May 04, 2018, 02:06:09 AM
Quote from: ahiddentableau on May 03, 2018, 10:19:43 PM
Did you ever use it to goose a mic pre?

No, I usually chain mic pres for that. My FET pre distorts really well. I've also chained the channels of the 1176.

Note that the rotary switch doesn't allow for all-buttons-in, but I was okay with that. It does plenty of other impossible settings. The ?! mode is hilarious, for instance.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: ahiddentableau on May 04, 2018, 03:31:17 AM
Quote from: midwayfair on May 04, 2018, 02:06:09 AM
Quote from: ahiddentableau on May 03, 2018, 10:19:43 PM
Did you ever use it to goose a mic pre?

No, I usually chain mic pres for that. My FET pre distorts really well. I've also chained the channels of the 1176.

What's the FET pre?  I'd be interested to hear more about that.
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: midwayfair on May 04, 2018, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: ahiddentableau on May 04, 2018, 03:31:17 AM
What's the FET pre?  I'd be interested to hear more about that.

Just a Hamptone derivative. There should be a thread around somewhere and I think the CB is still public on OshPark:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16242mJW2ZmwldvevZ6Yy1l5WBadvsuWd13oR7KGU258/edit
Title: Re: I'm in big DIY Trouble!
Post by: ahiddentableau on May 04, 2018, 08:24:15 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on May 04, 2018, 02:04:12 PM
Just a Hamptone derivative. There should be a thread around somewhere and I think the CB is still public on OshPark:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16242mJW2ZmwldvevZ6Yy1l5WBadvsuWd13oR7KGU258/edit

Wow, Jon, thank you!  That is pretty much exactly what I've been looking for for the past few weeks.  Great doc.  Much appreciated!