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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: Tremster on February 14, 2019, 08:24:20 AM

Title: Klon news .........
Post by: Tremster on February 14, 2019, 08:24:20 AM
https://www.gearnews.com/bill-finnegan-is-selling-the-original-klon-centaur-overdrive-again/ (https://www.gearnews.com/bill-finnegan-is-selling-the-original-klon-centaur-overdrive-again/)

It's not even funny anymore.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: EBK on February 14, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
I wonder how many of his "special" $1000 1N34A diodes he has left.  :P
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: Muadzin on February 14, 2019, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: EBK on February 14, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
I wonder how many of his "special" $1000 1N34A diodes he has left.  :P

Since he said he cornered the whole world supply of that particular bit of magic unobtainium, maybe even more then we can imagine?
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: dont-tase-me-bro on February 14, 2019, 12:32:29 PM
I heard they're $20,000, and when you name comes up on the wait list, there's a gladiator match with other customers then see who gets it.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: pickdropper on February 14, 2019, 01:04:08 PM
I say, who cares?  Tons of Klon-type pedals out there for folks on a budget.  If Bill wants to build a few batches of Klons and put them up for auction, the market will determine what their price is.  He put this one up with a starting bid of $100.  Other people decided they were willing to pay $2k. 
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: madbean on February 14, 2019, 01:14:32 PM
I think him capitalizing on the hype is long overdue (and good for him). But, I also have a hearty laugh at the TGP machinations about free markets and bears. There are a few guys on there that will call you a commie if you dare state the slightest distaste for over-inflated prices.

IOW,

(http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/09/free.png)
(https://www.makemytrip.com/travel-guide/media/dg_image/phuket/Banzaan-Fresh-Market_flickr_cumi&ciki.jpg)
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/Q4nm0.png)
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2010/10/14/1287073484138/Steve-Martin-in-The-Jerk-006.jpg?width=300&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=cac64636c3ea570f9cc6df549f1428f2)
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: pickdropper on February 14, 2019, 01:29:09 PM
Quote from: madbean on February 14, 2019, 01:14:32 PM
I think him capitalizing on the hype is long overdue (and good for him). But, I also have a hearty laugh at the TGP machinations about free markets and bears. There are a few guys on there that will call you a commie if you dare state the slightest distaste for over-inflated prices.

IOW,

(http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/09/free.png)
(https://www.makemytrip.com/travel-guide/media/dg_image/phuket/Banzaan-Fresh-Market_flickr_cumi&ciki.jpg)
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/Q4nm0.png)
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2010/10/14/1287073484138/Steve-Martin-in-The-Jerk-006.jpg?width=300&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=cac64636c3ea570f9cc6df549f1428f2)

Well, certainly if he starts building on a regular basis, I would expect the free market to lower the ending price on the auctions.

I'm really curious what quantity he actually ends up building of these.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: fair.child on February 14, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
Myth No.5: Certain clones sound "exactly the same" as a Klon. Finnegan's contention is that, given several factors—especially the rarity of the Centaur's germanium clipping diodes—it would be extremely difficult to create an identical-sounding overdrive/boost.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: EBK on February 14, 2019, 03:34:09 PM
Does he consider all of his official Klons to be identical-sounding?
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: lars on February 14, 2019, 04:06:05 PM
"Bill Finnegan is selling the original Klon Centaur Overdrive again!"
So these are original copies? Or are they new originals? Ah, it's the original second reissue. Originally the original had an origin that originated with the original originator.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: pickdropper on February 14, 2019, 04:53:01 PM
Quote from: fair.child on February 14, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
Myth No.5: Certain clones sound "exactly the same" as a Klon. Finnegan's contention is that, given several factors—especially the rarity of the Centaur's germanium clipping diodes—it would be extremely difficult to create an identical-sounding overdrive/boost.

I suspect he actually believes that, but I've built a handful of 1590A versions so folks could stop gigging their original Klon and they all reported the smaller version sounded basically the same.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: m-Kresol on February 14, 2019, 08:17:42 PM
I also agree that this is a good thing. a) all the idiots that think that only the original will suffice, have a chance to get one. b) Bill invented and engineered the thing, so he should be making money off of it. especially considering all the clones.

didn't Bill say that all the diodes he uses are regular 1n34a without measuring them or anything? I guess there are still those that won't accept that fact.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: EBK on February 14, 2019, 08:39:19 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on February 14, 2019, 08:17:42 PM
didn't Bill say that all the diodes he uses are regular 1n34a without measuring them or anything? I guess there are still those that won't accept that fact.
Something like that. 1N34A auditioned by ear, I think.
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: juansolo on February 14, 2019, 10:39:39 PM
*sigh*
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: Leevibe on February 14, 2019, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: juansolo on February 14, 2019, 10:39:39 PM
*sigh*

That sigh sounded like a yawn
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: movinginslomo on February 16, 2019, 10:37:36 PM
I say if someone wants to drop 2k on a "new" klon, let 'em, it's their money. I could do a very nice little vacation on that dime, but hey. It's like politics. Can't change people's minds. I feel the people who pay 2k for a klon will never have an as enriched and rewarding musical experience as I will with my lonely stock EHX soul food, but I won't hate on them for that. Pity maybe. lol
Title: Re: Klon news .........
Post by: gordo on February 17, 2019, 12:23:35 AM
Agreed.  If you can part with that kind of coin for damn near any piece of gear I'm envious.  I would hope that most of this goes in Finnegan's pocket instead of traders.  The guy really deserves to be just stupid rich just for pulling off the whole Klon thing in the first place.  In the meantime by Aion, VFE, and Kingslayer versions suit me just fine and I'm very happy that the pedal exists at all...hype or no hype.