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Title: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on November 16, 2011, 12:45:26 PM
Holy balls this thing is a lot of fun to play! Of course, now that I've tinkered around with it I've come up with some mods that are going to increase the functionality and fun factor of this thing. So, as it turns out this is not the final design which is why it isn't boxed up. I will be reducing it form 8 stages to 6 for sure, and adding a "Univibe" option (which sounds pretty amazing). And, there will be blinking lights.

Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: pietro_moog on November 16, 2011, 12:58:03 PM
is that a small stone on steroids?
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Haberdasher on November 16, 2011, 01:27:47 PM
I can't bleeping wait for this bleeping thing. The best things are yet to come at madbeanpedals!

GAS GAS GAS
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: nzCdog on November 16, 2011, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: madbean on November 16, 2011, 12:45:26 PM
...there will be blinking lights.
FTW!  Compulsory building methinks... 8)
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on November 16, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Quote from: Haberdasher on November 16, 2011, 01:27:47 PM
I can't bleeping wait for this bleeping thing. The best things are yet to come at madbeanpedals!

GAS GAS GAS

Exactly how I feel!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: the3secondrule on November 16, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
Ditto - I love me some swirly  ;D

Demo please?

Quote from: bigmufffuzzwizz on November 16, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Quote from: Haberdasher on November 16, 2011, 01:27:47 PM
I can't bleeping wait for this bleeping thing. The best things are yet to come at madbeanpedals!

GAS GAS GAS

Exactly how I feel!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: plesur on November 17, 2011, 01:25:53 AM
Is that a pot labeled BALLS I see?  ;D
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: LaceSensor on November 17, 2011, 04:38:45 PM
really really want.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: destro on November 21, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
Quote from: plesur on November 17, 2011, 01:25:53 AM
Is that a pot labeled BALLS I see?  ;D

If I recall correctly, the maestro phaser has a control with this label. Hmmm.....
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: TNblueshawk on November 21, 2011, 09:06:20 AM
Wow, that is one cool ass looking build. I need to get smarter and quick to build these things.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Matt Gnarly on November 21, 2011, 02:16:50 PM
Wow, this one looks nuts.  I'll have to buy a pcb and save it for when I have the chops and time to tackle a project like this.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Smeero on January 25, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
I can't wait. This just makes me want it more.



BTW...if you're an Eddie Hazel fan like me, this was his phaser.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: mattc on January 25, 2012, 04:00:05 PM
You had me at Blinky Lights   ;D
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Scruffie on January 25, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: Smeero on January 25, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
I can't wait. This just makes me want it more.



BTW...if you're an Eddie Hazel fan like me, this was his phaser.
Oh that's awesome... I never really got on with phase but i'm gunna get on with this...

And Hazel used one too! Even better.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Smeero on January 25, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on January 25, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
And Hazel used one too! Even better.

After the early Maggot Brain era fuzz face and marshall tone, his core sound came from a Music Man HD130 head and a Maestro Stage Phaser. (with some delay when the moment was right)


(until he fell off the wagon so hard in th 80's he pawned it all)
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on January 25, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
Here's the update on this one. I am in the middle of building up the last prototype. The first build up above is an 8-stage phaser based around the old Maestro one. It has switchable stages 2-8. However, after I built that one, I found out that I REALLY LOVED subbing in the univbe caps in four stages. It sounds f'n AWESOME!

The problem is fitting that into the existing 8-stage design proved to be difficult, at least if you want to switch between univibe and phaser modes.

What followed was a freakin hard time of figuring out how to integrate the two ideas. What I found was that it was pretty near impossible to fit 8 switchable stages AND the univbe mod into a 1590BB without making some serious comprises in the layout.

So, this newest version is 6 stages and lets you pick 2, 4, 5 and 6 stages and uses a 4PDT to toggle the phaser and univibe modes in the first four stages. It also might have some cool blinking lights.

Anyway, I'm giving all this detail just to illustrate the process a bit more. LaceSensor mentioned a few weeks ago that transparency in the project development would be welcome, so maybe I should start up a new section of the forum that explains the process I go through in working on things...as a teaching tool? I dunno. Feels weird to say that!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: jkokura on January 25, 2012, 08:15:55 PM
I'm trying to work out in my brain how to get that speed switch foot controllable. That setup with all three controls AND the bypass all done by footy... Wow.

Jacob
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Smeero on January 25, 2012, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: jkokura on January 25, 2012, 08:15:55 PM
I'm trying to work out in my brain how to get that speed switch foot controllable. That setup with all three controls AND the bypass all done by footy... Wow.

Jacob

I agree. The stage phaser had a huge footprint though,  if you do figure it out it would  have to be one of your favorite pedals to take up all that room.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Scruffie on January 26, 2012, 02:18:35 AM
Quote from: madbean on January 25, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
LaceSensor mentioned a few weeks ago that transparency in the project development would be welcome, so maybe I should start up a new section of the forum that explains the process I go through in working on things...as a teaching tool? I dunno. Feels weird to say that!
I think that'd be cool, it'd allow for a bit of back and forth during the design process to get it featured/designed for the end users preference too, as long as it didn't lead to threads with 100 'Can you stick this in it!' posts.

Plus it would give us all a chance to drool over things while waiting for them to be released.

Anyway, this sounds awesome! Does the stage phaser have any regen capabilities? Just curious.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: jimmybjj on January 26, 2012, 02:35:54 AM
Quote from: madbean link=topic=3071.msg32627#msg32627date

Anyway, I'm giving all this detail just to illustrate the process a bit more. LaceSensor mentioned a few weeks ago that transparency in the project development would be welcome, so maybe I should start up a new section of the forum that explains the process I go through in working on things...as a teaching tool? I dunno. Feels weird to say that!

I think that would be awesome!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: cjkbug on January 26, 2012, 08:07:14 AM
being a former industrial designer I would love to see a page with concept to finished project details. I think it would help everybody with both the how's and why's of electronics design.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: pietro_moog on January 26, 2012, 03:03:06 PM
Quote from: madbean on January 25, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
Here's the update on this one. I am in the middle of building up the last prototype. The first build up above is an 8-stage phaser based around the old Maestro one. It has switchable stages 2-8. However, after I built that one, I found out that I REALLY LOVED subbing in the univbe caps in four stages. It sounds f'n AWESOME!

The problem is fitting that into the existing 8-stage design proved to be difficult, at least if you want to switch between univibe and phaser modes.

What followed was a freakin hard time of figuring out how to integrate the two ideas. What I found was that it was pretty near impossible to fit 8 switchable stages AND the univbe mod into a 1590BB without making some serious comprises in the layout.

So, this newest version is 6 stages and lets you pick 2, 4, 5 and 6 stages and uses a 4PDT to toggle the phaser and univibe modes in the first four stages. It also might have some cool blinking lights.

Anyway, I'm giving all this detail just to illustrate the process a bit more. LaceSensor mentioned a few weeks ago that transparency in the project development would be welcome, so maybe I should start up a new section of the forum that explains the process I go through in working on things...as a teaching tool? I dunno. Feels weird to say that!

cool. so, is this revision the released one in february? i don't understand..
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: ckim715 on January 26, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Just when I think my pedalboard is done, Brian, you make something like this. My brain=
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34971369/mind%20blown.gif)
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on January 26, 2012, 05:17:37 PM
Quote from: ckim715 on January 26, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Just when I think my pedalboard is done, Brian, you make something like this. My brain=
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34971369/mind%20blown.gif)

I probably shouldn't mention the potential integration with some of the Molten Voltage CV IC's they make. Who doesn't want a tap tempo phaser, I ask?
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: mattc on January 26, 2012, 07:09:18 PM
Tap Tempo, you say?   Blinky lights, you say?


Sign me up!!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: lloyd17 on January 26, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Hell I'd wig right out if I could get a PCB just for that molten voltage chip.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: sgmezei on January 26, 2012, 09:54:59 PM
Holy Crap this is sounding amazing!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: JakeFuzz on January 26, 2012, 10:22:01 PM
Oh man, I was satisfied with my Warhead vibe but now I need to build this thing. That would be super cool if you could integrate the MV cv chip. Are there any other weird features in those LFO chips? Different waveforms could be interesting.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Haberdasher on January 27, 2012, 07:39:06 AM
Man, can I just say I'm looking forward to this project more than......anything?
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: LaceSensor on January 27, 2012, 08:42:21 AM
super excited for this
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Timmo on January 28, 2012, 04:59:30 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on January 27, 2012, 08:42:21 AM
super excited for this

+1 million, looks great! A challenge.  ;D
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on January 28, 2012, 05:21:51 AM
I think what will happen here is that there will be two versions. The first version will be either 6 or 8 stages and maybe have a couple fun things. The second version will be the "deluxe" which has all the features I WANT to put in it, but cannot fit in a 1590BB. This would include more stages (12), stage selector AND regen path selector, more LFO controls and onboard circuitry for a Molten Voltage control. Obviously ver2 is going to take more time to develop, and be a much more intense build, so I will shoot for the "lite" version now and follow-up in a couple of months with the deluxe super duper phaser pooper. Maybe a super light 1590B version, too, and mega ultra two stage 1590A.

Why design something once when you can do it four times? Bah!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: DutchMF on January 28, 2012, 05:24:16 AM
Just when I thought I could really get my brain around how all those pedals work, you come with something like this..... There is soooooooo much to learn! Brian, by now you have to be one of the most effects-knowledgable guys in the world. Ever thought of going public with this? Guitar World should do a piece on MadBean! Thanx man, this is an ever-expanding source of knowledge!

Paul

Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: DutchMF on January 28, 2012, 05:29:44 AM
Quote from: madbean on January 28, 2012, 05:21:51 AM
I will shoot for the "lite" version now and follow-up in a couple of months with the deluxe super duper phaser pooper.

Super duper phaser pooper? Try to get that on an enclosure!!  :D
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Haberdasher on January 28, 2012, 06:01:06 AM
Heck yeah, I will be building both the lite and supe dupe versions, maybe even the 1590a one as well.  The "lite" will still have univibe switch, yes?
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on January 28, 2012, 07:09:44 AM
These are the feature lists (to summarize) I'm considering:

Baby board (1590A) - 2 stages, simple LFO
Lite (1590B) - 4 stages, simple LFO - can build either a phaser or something similar to the Faux Vibe
Regular (1590BB) - 6 stages, rotary stage OR regen selector, Univibe switch, Maestro LFO
Deluxe (1590D?) - 12 stages, rotary stage AND regen selector, Molten Voltage MV-55 implementation, plus an alternate LFO with added controls (maybe a mash up between the Maestro and Tremulus Lune).

This stuff isn't for sure....just possibilities. But, it's also kind of an outline of what I'd like to do with a few different projects- multiple version with different features to meet the needs of the builder, i.e. taking a core design and then offering different versions with progressively complex features. Some folks may want a simple phaser in a 1590B, some may want a space ship.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: pickdropper on January 28, 2012, 08:01:25 AM
That's really cool.  Practically, the deluxe looks to hit the best blend between features while still retaining a usable size.

Of course, I'd probably build the lite and deluxe version as well.   ;D
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: sgmezei on January 28, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
I will take one of each please  ;D

Super excited for these. Me and a buddy were just talking about building a couple of phase 90's, and I told him to wait for THESE. Super stoked!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: LaceSensor on January 28, 2012, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: madbean on January 28, 2012, 07:09:44 AM
some may want a space ship.

LaceSensor to Apollo Bean 1
Sign me up for spaceship
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: jkokura on January 28, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
That reminds me of a post on a recent TGP thread...


"If people look at your pedalboard and make comments about space ships or airplane cockpits... you might have a gear problem."

Jacob
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on January 28, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Shoot, we probably have enough brain power on this forum to actually BUILD a space ship!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: pickdropper on January 28, 2012, 07:19:12 PM
Quote from: madbean on January 28, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Shoot, we probably have enough brain power on this forum to actually BUILD a space ship!

Well, I am not sure about a space ship, but many years ago me and 2 buddies put together a 777 sim

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/777%20Sim/SimIcarus2.jpg)

All of that building and I never was any good at flying.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on January 28, 2012, 11:51:38 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 28, 2012, 07:19:12 PM
Quote from: madbean on January 28, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Shoot, we probably have enough brain power on this forum to actually BUILD a space ship!

Well, I am not sure about a space ship, but many years ago me and 2 buddies put together a 777 sim

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/777%20Sim/SimIcarus2.jpg)

All of that building and I never was any good at flying.


:o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: JakeFuzz on January 28, 2012, 11:57:06 PM
Woah, Where on earth did you get all that avionics equipment? That looks fun.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Smeero on January 29, 2012, 08:01:29 AM
seeing that makes me think we could build a time machine.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: pickdropper on January 29, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: JakeFuzz on January 28, 2012, 11:57:06 PM
Woah, Where on earth did you get all that avionics equipment? That looks fun.

It's not actually real avionics equipment.  If you look under the hood, there is an awful lot of acrylic and wire wrapping.

This is a picture of one of the partially assembled panels

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/777%20Sim/EVACCropII.jpg)
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: nzCdog on January 29, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
Cool!  I filmed a story with some dudes who built a replica of a control panel the deathstar... will try find a link... its a bit of a lol  ;D

http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/force-christchurch-3-42-video-4280850 (http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/force-christchurch-3-42-video-4280850)
*edit link added*
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: sgmezei on January 30, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
Corey, I just watched that video. It is ridiculous hahaha. I love star wars but I can't even imagine the time it took to DO that.

I was truly shocked when they said they had wives......Hahahahaha.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: nzCdog on January 30, 2012, 11:52:12 AM
LOL... yeah Scott, they were fanatics!  And very nice guys... I got to try on a storm trooper helmet too while we were there... WOO!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: unb92 on March 06, 2012, 04:17:48 AM
Any updates about this?
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Diamond on March 07, 2012, 12:49:18 AM
Quote from: unb92 on March 06, 2012, 04:17:48 AM
Any updates about this?

The text on top of the projects page says: "Please do not email me about release dates. I announce them when I know for sure! The next batch of projects will come around mid-March." Let's hope the Stage Fright will be among them because I'm really looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: madbean on March 07, 2012, 02:42:52 AM
Oh, it will. Actually, I will be boxing up my build here in a couple of days for a demo.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: unb92 on March 07, 2012, 04:49:28 AM
Quote from: Diamond on March 07, 2012, 12:49:18 AM
Quote from: unb92 on March 06, 2012, 04:17:48 AM
Any updates about this?

The text on top of the projects page says: "Please do not email me about release dates. I announce them when I know for sure! The next batch of projects will come around mid-March." Let's hope the Stage Fright will be among them because I'm really looking forward to this one!

Oh! sorry I'm just a newbie here.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: djaaz on November 01, 2012, 09:15:17 AM
Quote from: madbean on January 28, 2012, 07:09:44 AM
These are the feature lists (to summarize) I'm considering:

Baby board (1590A) - 2 stages, simple LFO
Lite (1590B) - 4 stages, simple LFO - can build either a phaser or something similar to the Faux Vibe
Regular (1590BB) - 6 stages, rotary stage OR regen selector, Univibe switch, Maestro LFO
Deluxe (1590D?) - 12 stages, rotary stage AND regen selector, Molten Voltage MV-55 implementation, plus an alternate LFO with added controls (maybe a mash up between the Maestro and Tremulus Lune).

This stuff isn't for sure....just possibilities. But, it's also kind of an outline of what I'd like to do with a few different projects- multiple version with different features to meet the needs of the builder, i.e. taking a core design and then offering different versions with progressively complex features. Some folks may want a simple phaser in a 1590B, some may want a space ship.

ok, i'm late.
But i need all of them.
Not negociable.
Title: Re: Stage Fright
Post by: Knut Koupee on November 04, 2012, 07:16:21 PM
This looks really interesting.

Any chance of a inverted 3 stage? ^_^