I noticed today that most Xicon resistors—including the metal film 1/4W (271) and 1/8W (270) and the carbon 1/4W (291) and 1/8W (299)—have a new MOQ of 200 units at Mouser.
Well that's inconvenient. I don't mind ordering that many of the common values, but for lesser-used ones it's kinda hard to justify keeping 200 of them around when I only need 1 or 2. I had a cart almost ready to go too, just had a few more things to add. Serious bummer.
That pretty much screws every Mouser project I've provided for the mbp projects. Ah well, nothing to do about it I guess. You'd think they'd at least go for 10 MOQ but I understand it can be quite time consuming for them to pick out one or two resistors for an order.
Quote from: madbean on September 13, 2020, 07:30:02 PM
That pretty much screws every Mouser project I've provided for the mbp projects. Ah well, nothing to do about it I guess. You'd think they'd at least go for 10 MOQ but I understand it can be quite time consuming for them to pick out one or two resistors for an order.
Yeah, I actually noticed it because I was referencing a MBP mouser BOM. I agree that it seems an MOQ of ten would be the next step before 200. It's a drag because I make my BOMs with spreadsheets and the Xicon SKUs are really easy to populate from build docs. That and project mouser carts and obscure values. I didn't check to see if the other functional equivalents have been affected.
I can't imagine we could influence a policy change. Part of me is thinking this might have to do with streamlining fulfillment due to COVID-19. But, many changes like that become entrenched and remain even when the cause for the change goes away.
I can't blame Mouser, the full packs are so cheap that if you order anything less than ~20 singles then you're better off getting 200. And who wants to sort them out!
That said, I have some work to do since all my parts lists use Xicon exclusively. Fortunately the individual project spreadsheets look up the part # in a centralized master parts database. So I do have to change ~120 part numbers to KOA Speer or Yageo, but only in one spot.
Wow, I just did a large order with them for the Flintlock Flanger last week. I even remember thinking, "wow, they are going to hate me for the large number of single odd-value resistors!" Guess it is time to take a new look at KOA Speer or Yageo as Kevin suggests.
Yes, you are the one that caused Mouser's change of policy! Bad, very bad!
Lol!
I submitted an enquiry today to see if this is a change originating with Mouser or the manufacturer. I talked to three representatives (i.e., customer service, tech, and purchasing) and no one knew what caused the change. I'll report back with an update when I get a response.
I agree that ultimately this isn't the hugest deal. It's just rather inconvenient for project BOMs and low-volume builders. The Xicon SKU format is just so easy to use.
I use Mouser for either weird values (like the E96 series stuff I ordered a couple weeks ago for the C16 filterbank), or when I want a thousand resistors. Everything else is Tayda (it's 1%, it's a resistor, it's metal film, job done.)
I'm sure the policy came from Mouser themselves. The amount of time/pay it takes to sort out 1 or 10 resistors and package them up is more than what they're charging for that amount of resistors. $2 for 100 resistors is cheap, and yeah, they may sit around for a long time but Mouser is in the business of selling parts so they aren't gonna mind if they sell you more than you need.
I'm not totally sure it did come from Mouser, though. That'd certainly make sense (for all of the above reasons), but they indicated that it was more likely a manufacturer decision rather than an internal policy change. Other comparable resistors haven't been affected. Ultimately, my concern was with preexisting project BOMs/carts that will need to be changed. In any case, I'll post the response when I get it.
The enquiry seems to have fizzled out. Instead, I received a PO approval for Xicon resistor purchase in quantities less than 200 (albeit without the typical price break at QTY>10). Seems like this is the new norm. I'm not sure if other functionally equivalent parts (e.g., KAO Speer or Yageo) will have the same increase.
I always felt a bit guilty ordering one or two of items worth a fraction of a dollar, still did it but gave me pause.
dave
With parts that cheap, I always buy extra, partly for a price break, and partly because spare parts never hurt.
Quote from: alanp on September 25, 2020, 06:49:38 PM
With parts that cheap, I always buy extra, partly for a price break, and partly because spare parts never hurt.
Does get a wee bit annoying when you're buying an oddball value that you've only ever seen in one project, where you need 1 and have 199 collecting dust on a shelf for the next 8 years.
Quote from: somnif on September 25, 2020, 06:56:42 PM
Does get a wee bit annoying when you're buying an oddball value that you've only ever seen in one project, where you need 1 and have 199 collecting dust on a shelf for the next 8 years.
On that note, if anyone is building an L5, and needs a 1/2W 2k7 resistor, I have 199 to spare ::). Funny thing is, I ordered from Mouser versus Tayda because I wanted the part by last Friday.....starting build tonight (this Friday).
I don't understand. I see more than ten different 2,7k resistors with 0,5W or 0,6W available in singles.
If it really was Mouser's intention to get rid of single part sales, I think they would start with 0201 SMD parts...
(other than Tayda) Anybody landed on any candidates for a new "standard" that covers a nice range of values and wattage ratings and allows quantities less than 100 for a decent price?
My last Mouser order I was able to buy Xicon resistors in a lower quantity (20). Might have been a glitch or they might have changed the policy again.
Quote from: Aentons on November 13, 2020, 10:01:06 AM
(other than Tayda) Anybody landed on any candidates for a new "standard" that covers a nice range of values and wattage ratings and allows quantities less than 100 for a decent price?
Maybe Arrow has something? They'd wrap each resistor individually in two layers of antistatic packaging, of course, which would be somewhat inconvenient. :P
You can get Newark's house brand (Multicomp Pro) for pretty cheap with no minimum order quantity. I'd say it's on par with Xicon.
Here's a link: https://www.newark.com/w/c/passive-components/resistors-fixed-value/through-hole-resistors?brand=multicomp-pro&resistance=1kohm&power-rating=250mw&resistance-tolerance=posneg-1pc
Quote from: culturejam on November 13, 2020, 07:33:58 PM
You can get Newark's house brand (Multicomp Pro) for pretty cheap with no minimum order quantity. I'd say it's on par with Xicon.
Here's a link: https://www.newark.com/w/c/passive-components/resistors-fixed-value/through-hole-resistors?brand=multicomp-pro&resistance=1kohm&power-rating=250mw&resistance-tolerance=posneg-1pc
I've used these for numerous projects they are great quality.
-Mike-
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Quote from: flanagan0718 on November 14, 2020, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: culturejam on November 13, 2020, 07:33:58 PM
You can get Newark's house brand (Multicomp Pro) for pretty cheap with no minimum order quantity. I'd say it's on par with Xicon.
Here's a link: https://www.newark.com/w/c/passive-components/resistors-fixed-value/through-hole-resistors?brand=multicomp-pro&resistance=1kohm&power-rating=250mw&resistance-tolerance=posneg-1pc
I've used these for numerous projects they are great quality.
-Mike-
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Wow those are great prices but the shipping is a flat $10 and $150 to hit the free mark. I wish Mouser would do a house brand for cheap like that.
I usually get the $3.50 economy shipping from Mouser which is hard to beat.
Ive been looking at the Yageo but the prices seem to be all over thplace depending on the value.
1/4W
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Yageo/MFR-25FBF52-1K?qs=oAGoVhmvjhwCAC47ReWjsQ%3D%3D
1/6W
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Yageo/MFR-12FTF52-1K?qs=oAGoVhmvjhziakooNB4n2Q%3D%3D
I used to like the Yageo MF0204 resistors but I can't seem to get them anymore. They were .4W but 1/8W sized. Anyone else have a favorite 1/8w size resistor?
Quote from: imjonwain on November 19, 2020, 05:25:06 PM
I used to like the Yageo MF0204 resistors but I can't seem to get them anymore. They were .4W but 1/8W sized. Anyone else have a favorite 1/8w size resistor?
Mouser shows a New @ Mouser sticker for them, only have 28 values in stock but if their showing 'new' will the number of values be expanding shortly?
Be aware prices are $cdn.
https://www.mouser.ca/Search/Refine?FS=TRUE&N=0+4294759231+12549313+4294618345+4292906361
I don't know how I missed that, I must of searched for 1k. Hopefully they get carry more values sooner or later.