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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: gordo on October 26, 2021, 03:56:24 PM

Title: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: gordo on October 26, 2021, 03:56:24 PM
Not anything to do with DIY but both highly recommended.  They fixed a lot of stuff that is truly annoying about Android 10 and the Windows bit is just a fine tune of Windows 10 but some nice tweaks.

I won't go into detail unless anyone wants an explanation.  It's made life easier in tiny increments so I'll consider it a WIN.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: thesmokingman on October 27, 2021, 08:55:50 AM
mixed bag here re: windows 11

the troubles: my 2015 macbook pro required a trip to github to even install it (no TPM) ... registry tweaks, another trip to github, and installation of a boot manager to get it fully functional post-install (restoration of context menus, ability to relocate task bar, rEFInd to turn on hardware virtualization for stuff like WSL, hyper-v, and docker) ... that said it has been rock solid as windows 10 has been and these are issues purely related to personal preference, edge use case, and frankly unsupported hardware

my considerably newer HP has some recurring display issues I assume are related either to drivers or power management ... as it is not my daily driver I haven't invested time in addressing the issue beyond rebooting to resolve.

the good stuff: Rounded corners are a long overdue UX improvement, the context menu changes make the OS much more idiot friendly, WSL is definitely better, and Windows Terminal was a power user game changer, near-future improvements like android app sideloading have serious promise
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: Muadzin on October 28, 2021, 06:53:56 AM
I'll let the early adopters experience all the fun and bugs and remain with Win10 for as long as possible until it is all smoothed out or Win10 is no longer supported or I can no longer update for free.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: thesmokingman on October 28, 2021, 07:43:27 AM
I certainly agree with that ... if I just needed my computer to work and do normal computer things I'd update to this next windows 10 LTSC next month and ride that train to the end
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: alanp on October 28, 2021, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: Muadzin on October 28, 2021, 06:53:56 AM
I'll let the early adopters experience all the fun and bugs and remain with Win10 for as long as possible until it is all smoothed out or Win10 is no longer supported or I can no longer update for free.

I only upgraded from XP when the new version of Windows (not Vista) had features I really needed.

I'm willing to bet that there are a few corporations still running XP. It's almost a complete certainty that there are XP machines running CNC mills or similar.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: gordo on October 30, 2021, 10:25:27 AM
You'd be surprised how many corps are still running Windows 7.

This one feels nice and solid, but the honey-moon's not over yet.  As I mentioned this could easily be a 10.x version.  Mostly touchy feely things and seems just a tad perkier.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: Zerro on October 30, 2021, 11:44:27 AM
"You'd be surprised how many corps are still running Windows 7."
... and what about WIN XP? :@)
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: lars on October 30, 2021, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: gordo on October 30, 2021, 10:25:27 AM
You'd be surprised how many corps are still running Windows 7.
I'm even more surprised anybody runs Windows at all.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: Zerro on October 31, 2021, 04:04:54 AM
Yes. That's another thing.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: jimilee on October 31, 2021, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: lars on October 30, 2021, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: gordo on October 30, 2021, 10:25:27 AM
You'd be surprised how many corps are still running Windows 7.
I'm even more surprised anybody runs Windows at all.
I asked the IT department about it. Most businesses don't know the first thing about Linux, Mac's are more expensive. Sure, they last longer, and there are fewer apps available for it, but it would be safer and less expensive down there road.


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Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: Zerro on October 31, 2021, 09:39:27 AM
Kubuntu for ever!
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: lars on October 31, 2021, 09:09:04 PM
Linux Mint for me. The funny thing is:  it runs perfectly fine on MacBooks and any IBM-compatible machine and is extremely easy to use. Plus, the amount of available software is mind-boggling...mind-blowing. Any kind of possible thing you want to do with a computer, Linux Mint can do it. There's a PCB layout program you can download for free. There's all kinds of music-creation programs for it. Ardour is a full-feature, studio-quality DAW, and it's available...FREE.
Running Windows in comparison seems like stupidity.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: Zerro on November 01, 2021, 03:36:36 AM
I run Kubuntu with Plasma environment for cca 7 years and satisfied for a while.
Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: jimilee on November 01, 2021, 08:35:29 AM
I'm running macOS, windows for some of my college courses, and Kali Linux.


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Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: thesmokingman on November 01, 2021, 11:31:57 AM
Quote from: jimilee on November 01, 2021, 08:35:29 AM
I'm running macOS, windows for some of my college courses, and Kali Linux.


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Title: Re: Android 12...Windows11
Post by: gordo on November 10, 2021, 07:42:01 PM
I've been using my wife's hand me down beater Mac lately and with the exception of MS Office apps (which are annoying at best without a multi button mouse) it's been kinda cool.  Linux Mint has come a long way as well.  Pretty hard to find a big fault with most distros these days.