I'm looking to replenish my capacitor supply. i used to get the little red panasonics, but the little box films look so much better on so many fabbed boards including madbeans...
now my dilemmna- I've ordered box film caps from both mammoth and tayda (i'm definitely not gonna pay mammoth prices for this larger order- and frankly sick of dealing with them) but I'm trying to figure out which ones came from where... because I have some caps from one place. some caps are 100v and have the letter J signifying 5%... the other caps are larger AND 63v (backwards i know) and have the letter K- signifying 10%... now I THINK the bigger, lesser caps came from mammoth, but I'm not absolutely positive because they dont list they're parts dimensions at mammoth.
if you've ordered from tayda did you receive the caps with the J signifier? most are already 100v there... funny thing too at tayda
does anyone know if tayda sells the better capacitor (I already know they're cheaper, but I cannot deal with these enormous .33uf caps- they're seriously almost as big as the 100v 1uf's I have)
maybe you know a better place to get better caps or less expensive?
Thanks!
I can't comment on which is which, but am curious what kind of trouble you have had with Mammoth. They're my main parts dealer, though the caps aren't cheap by any stretch of the imagination. A Tayda order is in store for all those common values I keep having to order.
I actually prefer the red panasonics and got some really good deals in bulk on eBay, less than .09 per cap You can get epco's at mouser for about the same price as tayda's box caps. I've also got a fair amount of wimas and AVX's from futurlec if you don't mind waiting 6 weeks to get an order.
Never bought caps at mammoth because the caps are ridiculously priced!
Rather than stir up more trouble on Mammoth, you can find a thread on Mammoth if you search.
I think getting Box caps from Tayda or the bulk bags from Smallbear is the way to go.
Jacob
Quote from: gtr2 on May 27, 2012, 05:13:49 PM
I actually prefer the red panasonics and got some really good deals in bulk on eBay, less than .09 per cap You can get epco's at mouser for about the same price as tayda's box caps. I've also got a fair amount of wimas and AVX's from futurlec if you don't mind waiting 6 weeks to get an order.
Never bought caps at mammoth because the caps are ridiculously priced!
+1 on all mentionned above.
Once you're used with some ebay stores, it's pretty much the best cost/quality you can find :)
My "secret" to getting cheap box caps back when I was running Caps n' Such is to troll Newark Electronic's online catalog and look for the items that are marked for promotional pricing. There is a purple P next to those items, and they are very cheap. You can get Epcos, Kemet, and other brands for as low as a nickel per cap. And the great thing about the promo priced stuff is that there is no price break, so you get the good price at low quantities (if you just need a few).
Whoops, just checked Newark's site. Apparently instead a purple P graphic, they have a purple sale tag logo. So look for that.
Also, on any online catalog, narrow your search by voltage rating (63v) and lead spacing (5mm) and dialetric type (polyester). That will pretty much rule out everything but box caps and a few axial film caps.
The have the cool red panasonic caps for 6 cents right now (some values):
http://www.newark.com/panasonic/ecqv1j563jm/capacitor-poly-film-0-056uf-63v/dp/32R8872
Those fit in exactly the same space as a typical small box cap.
I really appreciate the tips in this thread. It seems that I'm always in need of still more capacitors, and even at 0.15 cents a piece it adds up. Admittedly, I've been a bit apprehensive about using Tayda for their cheap caps, but it appears that they work just fine if so many of you guys use them.
whitebread47, i was also «scared» at first, but i bought some little quantity, tested them with my cap tester and they where always within the tolerances.
I also buy alot of greenies in packs of 50 to 200 on ebay from sellers like ICshop and CAPRO, price are ridiculously low and it's always free shipping.
But Tayda definitly worth the shot, aswell for many other supplies like DC jack diodes and stuff like that, their toggle switch are also real good quality and cheaper than all the other place i have bought from.
The only problem I've had with Tayda is that they sometimes send the wrong value. The baggie marked correctly, but the parts inside are wrong.
So definitely check one of each passive that you order from Tayday. A small price to pay for generally great service and unbeatable prices.
Mouser.com
Don't waste time, or money.
Quote from: Jack Deville on May 28, 2012, 08:07:30 PM
Mouser.com
Don't waste time, or money.
I've got to agree here.
Quote from: jubal81 on May 28, 2012, 08:35:51 PM
Quote from: Jack Deville on May 28, 2012, 08:07:30 PM
Mouser.com
Don't waste time, or money.
I've got to agree here.
Me too. Every time I need a cap, I order a stock of them from Mouser (usually 25-50 pcs). This is enough to get the right price break on high quality caps.
Quote from: Jack Deville on May 28, 2012, 08:07:30 PM
Mouser.com
Don't waste time, or money.
I love Mouser. And Newark as well. Both are insanely fast for shipping and they pretty much never screw up an order (although I once got a Mouser order that also contained half of some other guy's order).
But I think for hobbyists working on a tight budget, Tayda offers a pretty nice value for a wide range of stuff. And now they have honed in on the hobbyist pedal builder market, which makes it a better option than it was a year ago.
For pro builders, the big-boy wholesalers are the best way to go. No doubt about it. And if you have the money, I recommend ordering from the mainstream resellers.
The problem with Mouser is that it is go industrial scale or go home. The flat rate for shipping is $39 -- but if you spend more than $200, it's free. Ouch.
Tayda's shipping is a lot friendlier if you only want half a dozen of each value, but aren't going to buy enough to get a price break anywhere. Plus I love their easy-order pages for their CF and MF resistors.
Although I'm in the US. You can specify in the shipping instructions to ship the cheapest way possible. Sometimes it's still priority mail (over 13oz?) but a lot of times it's normal ground USPS. It does save some money that way, but you must specify it because USPS first class isn't even an option on the order page.
Josh
Quote from: alanp on May 28, 2012, 10:00:09 PM
The problem with Mouser is that it is go industrial scale or go home. The flat rate for shipping is $39 -- but if you spend more than $200, it's free. Ouch.
Tayda's shipping is a lot friendlier if you only want half a dozen of each value, but aren't going to buy enough to get a price break anywhere. Plus I love their easy-order pages for their CF and MF resistors.
Shipping from Mouser usually costs me about $9-10.
I am not badmouthing Tayda. I've bought some things from there. Some of it was good quality, some decent, some was a bit on the lower quality side. It's a great place to buy things like LEDs, which are absurdly cheap and work just fine.
The only thing I won't buy from there are electrolytic caps. For those, I stick to the name brand caps from Mouser.
I order all my mil-spec stuff and various IC from Mouser, i'm in Canada.
I got many orders from them to date going from 40$ to 150$, always costed me 13$ in shipping with an average lead time of 6-10 days, wich is really good compared to other supplier that i deal with in the US.
I totally agree with CJ for what he says about Tayda, it's really a great place for the general hobbyist....pretty hard to beat.
I do build in really large quantity, 3 to 6 and more sometime...pedal per week and i source alot of stuff from there ;)
okay, yeh i've heard all the cap stories before. I've gotten panasonics off ebay with good results. i'd like to like to use mouser... but that site just pisses me off. and there's always at least a dozen parts that are outrageously priced in an order.
so has anyone ordered caps from mammoth adn found them to be huge? and have the worse tolerance rating and 63v?
or how about this question... are tayda's caps larger than usual... like the .22uf and up you have to jimmy into the board to look right? i have these big ass box caps that look like any other grey box caps, but have a worse tolerance rating a lower voltage rating and again they are HUGE! i'm pretty sure these are mammoth's caps... which is funny how much more expensive they are considering the facts. they're at least 2mm bigger in each direction than the 100v ones.
anyways, just trying to make sure i'm not gonna be ordering huge outrageous caps from tayda.
does anyone feel there's an advantage to the more expensive wima caps over other box film caps? I mean in terms of sound... i've never done a side by side, and they've all sounded good and have been low noise. i would love to have ahuge stock of those tiny red wima box caps- those look rad on boards and seem to be extraordinarily small. Some of these larger box caps have really been a pain in the ass to box in the thinner 1590b and 1590bb. i do like the panasonic 1uf metal films much more than the box films that i've received in the past.
I ordered a box cap from Mammoth when I forgot to include a particular value in a Mouser order, and it was the exact same size as the Kemets I got from Mouser. Can't remember if the voltage rating or tolerance differed much, but I know it wasn't enough to raise my eyebrows. It worked out fine on the Pork Barrel, which is a pretty tight board.
I agree with Culturejam on ordering caps from Mouser--with the correct lead spacing and voltage plugged in, it's not too hard to get the right thing. Even without enough for a price break (I was only ordering enough for three builds), some of the Kemet box caps came in at $.09 each.
Quote from: Bret608 on May 29, 2012, 11:57:58 AM
I ordered a box cap from Mammoth when I forgot to include a particular value in a Mouser order, and it was the exact same size as the Kemets I got from Mouser. Can't remember if the voltage rating or tolerance differed much, but I know it wasn't enough to raise my eyebrows. It worked out fine on the Pork Barrel, which is a pretty tight board.
I agree with Culturejam on ordering caps from Mouser--with the correct lead spacing and voltage plugged in, it's not too hard to get the right thing. Even without enough for a price break (I was only ordering enough for three builds), some of the Kemet box caps came in at $.09 each.
well.. i've finally just figured this out myself. mammoth's caps were the larger, lower voltage 63v, worse tolerance capacitors 10% (and more expensive). the ones from tayda were indeed the smaller, 5%, 100v caps. Yay Tayda!
Just letting you all know, we dropped our polyfilm caps (both the ECQ style and Box style) by 30% today. I ran across this thread and was able to make some negotiations with our supplier and purchasing manager. We'll be adding larger quantities at a time in order to justify this price drop.
Hope this helps. And in the future, please make sure to contact me on any pricing or selection inquiries, in addition to working it out together on this forum. I might not be able to please everyone's requests, but in some scenarios it can make a huge difference. My contact email is sales@mammothelectronics.com
Thanks!
Links to the updated pricing :
http://www.mammothelectronics.com/Panasonic-ECQ-V1H-Capacitors-p/300-ecq-v1h.htm
http://www.mammothelectronics.com/Vikiin-Polyester-Film-Box-Capacitors-p/300b-mmk5.htm
Doh, just ordered some from Mammoth earlier this week. Props for dropping the prices and letting us know.