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Title: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 11, 2012, 04:32:21 PM
Got all of the passives except one in the same direction :) I used all ceramics for polarized cap positions, even the two 47uf's. Bat41's for the diodes but got some oa126's on the way. I made the mistake of not measuring the template i had in eagle and paid the price. As you can see in the top of the enclosure the cutouts are not deep enough which pushed the pcb down, luckily i was able to still make it fit  ::) Eagle files updated, that won't happen again. I've never used these type of jacks before didn't realize they were switching until it was wired up, next time i will have the i/o's switched to ground.

As usual crappy pic's don't do the pedals finish justice. Finished in DC texture powder coat. Embossed graphics. Aluminum knobs from smallbear. Background is actual beeswax that i use in my beekeeping adventures :)

This particular build sounds really midrangey for some reason. Maybe the carbon comp resistor tolerances?

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OBsTXprbatY/UE_Afqsn8SI/AAAAAAAAJEc/cQPAaiHt-Fk/s400/DSC03253.JPG)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fROu5exHYWc/UE_AmOeW2sI/AAAAAAAAJEk/2U82wbyiSEw/s400/DSC03255.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-81TInKcwcRA/UE_Ewn3PK4I/AAAAAAAAJFI/a9Nd5Njymms/s288/IMG_1310.JPG)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ESQrQ-UvXDo/UE_E6TVu8mI/AAAAAAAAJFQ/AuAWlI6rS2w/s288/IMG_1311.JPG)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yrDFltWzgEY/UE_EqLjW0xI/AAAAAAAAJFA/tTCnMQiTJ-E/s288/IMG_1312.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JqGkhFoXQpo/UE-_XmKiFnI/AAAAAAAAJEI/y4oTViEAqIU/s288/IMG_1337.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p5y1gIAHX6I/UE_ATBAEgYI/AAAAAAAAJEM/pxnzF1LXFGM/s288/IMG_1336.JPG)
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: stecykmi on September 11, 2012, 04:42:50 PM
whoa
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: alanp on September 11, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
I suspect there will be quite a few people who want to give you money, Jimmy, in exchange for one of those Shetland Centaurs  ;D
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: hoodoo on September 11, 2012, 04:55:11 PM
Wow mate, how the hell did you get all that in there? I just finished my first baby build, red llama and i struggled to get that in there, practice makes perfect i guess.  :) Great finish too, how do you get the design pressed into the finish.
Take it easy, Matt.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: pickdropper on September 11, 2012, 05:01:41 PM
Stellar build, Jimmy.  Everything about it is great.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: gtr2 on September 11, 2012, 05:09:46 PM
wow!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jkokura on September 11, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
I like the finish! As admirable as it is that you got a klone into a 1590a, I think that understated finish is fanfreakingtastic.

Jacob
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: midwayfair on September 11, 2012, 05:12:57 PM
Aw, you're killing me.

Did you make your own layout from scratch, or use (or adapt) saxoftenest's layout?
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: slimtriggers on September 11, 2012, 05:16:28 PM
Wow  :o :o
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 11, 2012, 05:19:10 PM
Thanks for all the super compliments guys!!!

Quote from: hoodoo on September 11, 2012, 04:55:11 PM
Great finish too, how do you get the design pressed into the finish.
Take it easy, Matt.

3 layers of high temp vinyl stacked via registration marks. Slow powder coat cure to prevent the melting of vinyl before the powder can flow.

Quote from: jkokura on September 11, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
I like the finish! As admirable as it is that you got a klone into a 1590a, I think that understated finish is fanfreakingtastic.

Jacob

Awesome, i glad someone else likes this finish as much as i do.

Quote from: midwayfair on September 11, 2012, 05:12:57 PM
Aw, you're killing me.

Did you make your own layout from scratch, or use (or adapt) saxoftenest's layout?

No, all original. Actually i copied Brians schematic. Layout is completely mine.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Haberdasher on September 11, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
I've been a fan of many of your builds but I think that's my new favorite.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: gtr2 on September 11, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: Haberdasher on September 11, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
I've been a fan of many of your builds but I think that's my new favorite.

Mine too!

It's like all your lost pedals built a super pedal to rule the world.

Josh
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: nzCdog on September 11, 2012, 05:41:53 PM
Jim that is so cool!  Great layout... great build!  Very impressive 8)

Quote from: alanp on September 11, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
I suspect there will be quite a few people who want to give you money, Jimmy, in exchange for one of those Shetland Centaurs  ;D
lolz
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: sgmezei on September 11, 2012, 05:44:10 PM
 :o Holy Crap!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: mgwhit on September 11, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Everything about this is amazing.  Awesome job!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: aflynt on September 11, 2012, 06:32:42 PM
Seriously amazing job all around.

-Aaron
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: lincolnic on September 11, 2012, 09:11:19 PM
Everything about this pedal is great.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: MattOcaster on September 12, 2012, 12:14:06 AM
Awesome!
And to think most Klones still use a horizontal 1590BB for all that mojo.
(now just have fun explaining to the uninformed guitarist!)
You even included the charge pump!  ;D

How long does it usually take to get your PCBs back?
Judging by those sexay purple pcbs, I assume you used dorkbot?

I've actually never done a 1590a build, but have managed my 1590b's with back mounted jacks.
With side jacks, don't the 1590a's take up just as much space on the pedal board then?
Not to criticize your stunning build at all, just surprised at the lack of "1590b with back mounted jacks".

In case anyone is wondering, if you shave down the top of those plastic jacks you used, it's just enough space to fit under the pots.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: raulduke on September 12, 2012, 01:31:20 AM
Thats a beautiful build mate  :o.

I really like that finish. You have convinced me that I need a Powdercoating kit for Christmas  :D!

I am really impressed by your PCB layout as well; nice and neat considering the amount of stuff in that small space.

On a side note; my Mum is into bee keeping. They are fascinating, if a little delicate, creatures I have to say (plus free honey is always a good thing  :D).

Did you get a good crop from yours this year?
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 12, 2012, 03:20:32 AM
Thanks again for the compliments guy!!!

Quote from: MattOcaster on September 12, 2012, 12:14:06 AM
How long does it usually take to get your PCBs back?
Judging by those sexay purple pcbs, I assume you used dorkbot?

I've actually never done a 1590a build, but have managed my 1590b's with back mounted jacks.
With side jacks, don't the 1590a's take up just as much space on the pedal board then?
Not to criticize your stunning build at all, just surprised at the lack of "1590b with back mounted jacks".

In case anyone is wondering, if you shave down the top of those plastic jacks you used, it's just enough space to fit under the pots.


Dorkbot takes about 3 weeks

I don't think so. with the 1590b you still have to put the dc jack on the side (i haven't tried any of those super small dc jacks some people are using, maybe they would work.), creating a wider footprint. Even with the side jacks, i think a 1590a with right angle jacks is still considerably smaller than a 1590b
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 12, 2012, 03:23:25 AM
Quote from: raulduke on September 12, 2012, 01:31:20 AM
Thats a beautiful build mate  :o.

I really like that finish. You have convinced me that I need a Powdercoating kit for Christmas  :D!

I am really impressed by your PCB layout as well; nice and neat considering the amount of stuff in that small space.

On a side note; my Mum is into bee keeping. They are fascinating, if a little delicate, creatures I have to say (plus free honey is always a good thing  :D).

Did you get a good crop from yours this year?

Cool, powdercoating really is easier than people think once you work out the initial bugs. Thanks, i was pretty happy about this layout. No honey yet this year expecting some soon. We split all of our hive in spring so they have to recover. We are up to about 40 hives. They are amazing creatures.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 12, 2012, 03:39:21 AM
Quote from: gtr2 on September 11, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: Haberdasher on September 11, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
I've been a fan of many of your builds but I think that's my new favorite.

Mine too!

It's like all your lost pedals built a super pedal to rule the world.

Josh

Thanks guys, thats a great compliment. That comment made my laugh, thanks Josh :)
Title: Re: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Om_Audio on September 12, 2012, 04:19:25 AM
Oh man you gotta be kidding, so cool. I love bees. Not Africanized.
I want one. Did you bee lovers ever see I think cycle 2 from Matthew Barney's "cremaster" film series? Mysterious bee references abound.
Would love to hear it and you send me a board, I send you money so you can buy more bees.
:)
C
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimijam on September 12, 2012, 04:48:16 AM
sweet like squirell meat....fine and dandy like sour candy!
Title: Re: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 12, 2012, 05:22:04 AM
Quote from: Om_Audio on September 12, 2012, 04:19:25 AM
Oh man you gotta be kidding, so cool. I live bees. Not Africanized.
I want one. Did you bee lovers ever see I think cycle 2 from Matthew Barney's "cremaster" film series? Mysterious bee references abound.
Would love to hear it and you send me a board, I send you money so you can buy more bees.
:)
C
Quote from: alanp on September 11, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
I suspect there will be quite a few people who want to give you money, Jimmy, in exchange for one of those Shetland Centaurs  ;D
If there is enough interest I'd do a small 10 piece run.
Title: Re: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Mich P on September 12, 2012, 05:32:07 AM
I'm in for a one or two !!
Mich P.
Title: Re: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Mich P on September 12, 2012, 05:35:06 AM
I'm in for one or two !!
Mich P.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: pickdropper on September 12, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
I'd be good for one, Jimmy.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: eldanko on September 12, 2012, 08:25:03 AM
LOVE the embossed artwork on the box.  Amazing idea, and the execution is flawless.  Really well done sir.

On that note... yes, I'd be in for a PCB.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: TheCobbenator on September 12, 2012, 08:28:54 AM
I always wondered if this were possible!? Leave it to Jimmy! Incredible work, sir!

I'd be down for one or two PCBs!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: plesur on September 12, 2012, 08:32:26 AM
Outstanding work.

Sign me up for one of your little PCBs.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Battery Acid on September 12, 2012, 06:54:20 PM
amazing work buddy! i'm in for 2 boards!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 12, 2012, 07:20:58 PM
ok guys it looks like there is enough interest. I will have a small batch made. I'll get the files to the fab this weekend and it will be around a month before i receive them.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Om_Audio on September 12, 2012, 08:04:44 PM
Cool, thanks!
C
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: enjoyadrian on September 12, 2012, 08:29:28 PM
totally down for one as well. Would love to build this!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Vallhagen on September 12, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
This is one of the coolest builds - maybe THE coolest build - i've seen around here. Luv the enclosure.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: juansolo on September 13, 2012, 02:55:07 AM
That is stunning!  8)
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: thetrend77 on September 13, 2012, 07:31:33 AM
I cannot begin to express to you how much I love this finish! That's amazing, bro!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: fish22 on September 13, 2012, 10:17:09 AM
id be in for at least 2 or 3!!!  ;D

wow. just wow.  :o

So are you using a dual gang 9mm pot? it's hard to see in the pic...

I can't even get a much simpler circuit in a 125b when I try to lay stuff out in Eagle lol. (i suck)
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: midwayfair on September 13, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: fish22 on September 13, 2012, 10:17:09 AM
So are you using a dual gang 9mm pot? it's hard to see in the pic...

Smallbear started carrying them a couple weeks ago. I already got a couple. :D
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: rlopes on September 13, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Amazing layout, amazing clean build, amazing finish.
Sign me in for a board too!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: cajone5 on September 14, 2012, 10:26:00 AM
Absolutely stellar work.  Even with your board I don't think I'd be able to successfully fit one of these into that enclosure :)
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: pk1802 on September 15, 2012, 12:00:03 PM
Mind=Blown

Getting myself one of these would be the only reason I could think of for kicking my Klone off my board.

Put me down for one.
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 15, 2012, 08:19:36 PM
Thanks again for all the super compliments!!

PCB's ordered :)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vkYSt4Vd8nU/UFVE0C0azNI/AAAAAAAAJHg/45rVRHSkvCU/s400/klon.jpg)
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on September 17, 2012, 01:47:26 PM
I have gotten several request to "pre-order" I am not currently taking orders, i don't want to count my chickens before they are hatched :) I want to make sure the layout is verified before i start selling. The layout is almost the same but i did make some changes to allow a better fit in the 1590a. I am pretty confident but you can never be to sure.

The new pcbs will be white :)
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: marauder on September 20, 2012, 04:33:47 AM
As Tayda have started doing 1599a's, count me in for 2 also. That is SO cool!
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: Om_Audio on September 20, 2012, 05:58:04 PM
I spend an hour or so looking at the pics thread at FSB.org. I do this occasionally. Very inspiring. Sometimes inspiring to build, sometimes inspiring to quit and never build again. The breadth of quality, creativity, and skill displayed there is mind bending. From psychotic epoxied piles of parts to clean, retro, steampunk, wood, handmade, silly, serious, dildos, clear, inverted crosses, toilet seats, on and on. This pedal just fits among the lot as a really great example of unique vision and skilled execution.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=36392.20240
C
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: jimmybjj on October 07, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
pcb's now available http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=6520.msg55725#msg55725
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: baj2k on October 07, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
Quote from: jimmybjj on September 12, 2012, 03:20:32 AM
Thanks again for the compliments guy!!!

Quote from: MattOcaster on September 12, 2012, 12:14:06 AM
How long does it usually take to get your PCBs back?
Judging by those sexay purple pcbs, I assume you used dorkbot?

I've actually never done a 1590a build, but have managed my 1590b's with back mounted jacks.
With side jacks, don't the 1590a's take up just as much space on the pedal board then?
Not to criticize your stunning build at all, just surprised at the lack of "1590b with back mounted jacks".

In case anyone is wondering, if you shave down the top of those plastic jacks you used, it's just enough space to fit under the pots.


Dorkbot takes about 3 weeks

I don't think so. with the 1590b you still have to put the dc jack on the side (i haven't tried any of those super small dc jacks some people are using, maybe they would work.), creating a wider footprint. Even with the side jacks, i think a 1590a with right angle jacks is still considerably smaller than a 1590b

1590A with side mounted pancake jacks is ~2.4" when it's plugged in and ready for use . A 125B with top mounted jacks is ~2.5" ready to go so you save ~1/10". Yes, it's smaller, but I don't think I'd call it "considerably smaller" than other enclosure options.

For me the one off parts (1/8w resisters, etc.) and huge increase in build difficulty over the numerous Klone PCB's out there that fit a 125B make it rather impractical. But the fact still remains that it's an  amazing layout that I must conquer... kind of like climbing Everest because it's there ;) 
Title: Re: Apis. Klon in a 1590a
Post by: eddiebeer on August 04, 2014, 04:36:05 PM
Wow.... Impressive shrink job!