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Title: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 15, 2013, 02:03:22 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img826/2916/dsc0555sj.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/dsc0555sj.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img16/1521/dsc0557ga.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/dsc0557ga.jpg/)

I finally got this thing boxed up and I am very proud of it! Huge thanks to MysticWhiskey for sharing his artwork, mjcyates for sharing his Mouser BOM, and The Bean for such a great project! I used a laser engraver for the graphics. Seeing as I am using Smallbear MN3005 fakes, I plan on doubling them up for the right amount of delay so I still have a bit of messing around to do before I can call this project complete. I used the extra tall 1590bb from Mammoth so I would have enough room for the extra boards once the double delay is operational.

                          *****EDIT****

(http://imageshack.us/a/img213/5105/dsc0559u.jpg)
Double Delay is Operational! At first I used a layout from FSB but either the layout wasn't right for the circuit, or I screwed something up. It's no surprise that Brians layout for the Aquaboy 2012 project was much better suited for the Dirtbag!


(http://imageshack.us/a/img24/9573/dsc0560js.jpg)
This is just to Illustrate how much room is in this enclosure! This is the Third layer of PCB and there is room to spare! Road rage is 3m taped to the enclosure, Dirtbag is mounted with the pots, and Double Delay is nicely wedged between the walls on top of everything with room to spare. The new wiring is a bit messy, but I can access all of the trimpots, and after trying to keep 16 24 gauge wires in those sockets, I wasn't going to mess with it after it worked! Thanks to Lacesensor, Scruffie, Madbean and everyone else who gave advice with this add on!
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: mjcyates on January 15, 2013, 02:48:23 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: Haberdasher on January 15, 2013, 02:59:10 PM
That looks fab dude.  Should be a fun challenge to cram more chips in there!
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: pickdropper on January 15, 2013, 03:30:01 PM
Dude, that looks exactly like mine (except for the knobs).  I laser engraved mine with the same artwork.

Obviously, I think you have good taste.  :-)
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 15, 2013, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 15, 2013, 03:30:01 PM
Dude, that looks exactly like mine (except for the knobs).  I laser engraved mine with the same artwork.

Obviously, I think you have good taste.  :-)
I know, that's where I got the idea  ;D I will definitely use the engraver for future builds!
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: pickdropper on January 15, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: wolfingsworth on January 15, 2013, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 15, 2013, 03:30:01 PM
Dude, that looks exactly like mine (except for the knobs).  I laser engraved mine with the same artwork.

Obviously, I think you have good taste.  :-)
I know, that's where I got the idea  ;D I will definitely use the engraver for future builds!

Careful, it's addictive.  :-)
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: midwayfair on January 15, 2013, 06:58:49 PM
Beautiful job inside and out.
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Post by: Chinchen on January 15, 2013, 08:14:40 PM
Ok, great job. Gotta know, where does one come across a lazer engraver??
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Post by: jimilee on January 15, 2013, 08:18:51 PM
That's a lot of stuff on that board.and evn more stuff off e board,that's crazy.
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Post by: jeffaroo on January 15, 2013, 08:33:56 PM
nice !
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 15, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: Chinchen on January 15, 2013, 08:14:40 PM
Ok, great job. Gotta know, where does one come across a lazer engraver??

I am lucky enough to have a brother in law who has one at his business and I'm pretty sure pickdropper has one at his work, but I have heard of people having luck finding the service at trophy shops.
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: pickdropper on January 15, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
Yep, I have access to one at work, but I am branching out to trophy shops because I don't want to use the one at work too much.
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: jeffaroo on January 15, 2013, 09:38:37 PM
my trophy shop is a a-hole. he told me $50.00 min with a $75.00 set up fee.
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: pickdropper on January 15, 2013, 09:46:58 PM
Yeah, skip that one.  Should be less than $10 for a normal size enclosure.

But it probably does depend on whether or not they need to do any setup.  I set everything up as an .AI file with an etching layer and a registration layer for quicker alignment on the laser bed.  If they have to dial it in for you, I suspect they will charge you for it.

Also, remember to outline the fonts in case the one you use isn't installed on their machine.  I also convert all artwork to vector to avoid pixelation, but that is not necessarily a hard and fast rule.
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: jeffaroo on January 15, 2013, 09:51:05 PM
i had mine all ready to go on a disk. he had a big chip on his sholder. he even told me "these machines dont grow on trees, costs mony to maintain them"
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: LaceSensor on January 16, 2013, 04:05:37 AM
gorgeous build
been a while since ive seen a newborn Dirtbag
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: Chinchen on January 16, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
QuoteBut it probably does depend on whether or not they need to do any setup.  I set everything up as an .AI file with an etching layer and a registration layer for quicker alignment on the laser bed.  If they have to dial it in for you, I suspect they will charge you for it.

Also, remember to outline the fonts in case the one you use isn't installed on their machine.  I also convert all artwork to vector to avoid pixelation, but that is not necessarily a hard and fast rule.
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So glad this all makes sense to me....great to be a graphic designer..
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: alanp on January 16, 2013, 11:45:59 PM
Wolf, nice work ^_^V

What do you think of it? (I tend to think of you as dub-ish (as in reggae and bass), thanks to your comment on my CD Dub Edition and your old Bob avatar.)
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: pickdropper on January 17, 2013, 07:04:13 AM
Quote from: Chinchen on January 16, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
QuoteBut it probably does depend on whether or not they need to do any setup.  I set everything up as an .AI file with an etching layer and a registration layer for quicker alignment on the laser bed.  If they have to dial it in for you, I suspect they will charge you for it.

Also, remember to outline the fonts in case the one you use isn't installed on their machine.  I also convert all artwork to vector to avoid pixelation, but that is not necessarily a hard and fast rule.
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So glad this all makes sense to me....great to be a graphic designer..

If you are a graphic designer, then you are certainly more proficient with this than I am.  I just have been hacking my way through Illustrator and learning as I go.  So far, I really dig it.

OP, sorry for the thread derail.
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: raulduke on January 17, 2013, 07:55:13 AM
Really nice build dude.

Its not 'just another Dirtbag'... it's a damn fine Dirtbag!
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 17, 2013, 08:48:17 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone! I got my Mouser order and an order of resistors on the same day! It feels like Christmas all over again :D In other words, hopefully soon I will be able to get the double delay going soon (be prepared for stupid questions and frustrated posts ;D)
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 20, 2013, 08:04:28 AM
******EDIT*******
see first post
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: Cortexturizer on January 20, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
great work. I don't really think I would ever attempt making something like this, to me it looks like you've made a pc motherboard bloody hell hahaha.
but then you know what they say...
playing through a deluxe memory man is like making love to a beautiful woman.
you start the vibe on the vibrato setting, then you lean towards her with a touch of laguhter in chorus. you increase the depth of the encounter, but you don't want to blend too much, so you're taking her feedback all the time. when the feedback is just right, you blend all your strengths in full level, you dive through great depths, and you repeat, repeat, repeat all of that until it's in your memory for evermore.

playing through a deluxe memory man is like making love to a beautiful woman.
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 20, 2013, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: Cortexturizer on January 20, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
great work. I don't really think I would ever attempt making something like this, to me it looks like you've made a pc motherboard bloody hell hahaha.
but then you know what they say...
playing through a deluxe memory man is like making love to a beautiful woman.
you start the vibe on the vibrato setting, then you lean towards her with a touch of laguhter in chorus. you increase the depth of the encounter, but you don't want to blend too much, so you're taking her feedback all the time. when the feedback is just right, you blend all your strengths in full level, you dive through great depths, and you repeat, repeat, repeat all of that until it's in your memory for evermore.

playing through a deluxe memory man is like making love to a beautiful woman.
HAHA! That is hilarious!
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: chordball on January 20, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
Beautiful! 4 BBD's is a little intimidating to look at but I like it. ;)

Sounds like you're really satisfied with your build, so I'd like to ask a question. On my dirtbag, I find the repeats to be way too dark. At first I thought I was happy but it just kills the highs way too much for me. I find that I barely get any repeats on higher notes (like say high e string, and it gets progressively worse as I move up the neck). How does yours compare? Is that just the nature of the DMM or should I be looking for a problem? I have already removed C14 and C22 and it's still not bright enough.

Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 20, 2013, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: chordball on January 20, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
Beautiful! 4 BBD's is a little intimidating to look at but I like it. ;)

Sounds like you're really satisfied with your build, so I'd like to ask a question. On my dirtbag, I find the repeats to be way too dark. At first I thought I was happy but it just kills the highs way too much for me. I find that I barely get any repeats on higher notes (like say high e string, and it gets progressively worse as I move up the neck). How does yours compare? Is that just the nature of the DMM or should I be lookinge for a problem? I have already removed C14 and C22 and it's still not bright enough.

Thanks for any help.
Analog delays are supposed to be dark and get progressively darker, but I can see your point if they are too dark... I haven't really had the chance to play with mine (or even bias it properly) so I'll have to get back to you on how mine behaves. What kind of BBD's did you use?
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: chordball on January 21, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
Quote from: wolfingsworth on January 20, 2013, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: chordball on January 20, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
Beautiful! 4 BBD's is a little intimidating to look at but I like it. ;)

Sounds like you're really satisfied with your build, so I'd like to ask a question. On my dirtbag, I find the repeats to be way too dark. At first I thought I was happy but it just kills the highs way too much for me. I find that I barely get any repeats on higher notes (like say high e string, and it gets progressively worse as I move up the neck). How does yours compare? Is that just the nature of the DMM or should I be lookinge for a problem? I have already removed C14 and C22 and it's still not bright enough.

Thanks for any help.
Analog delays are supposed to be dark and get progressively darker, but I can see your point if they are too dark... I haven't really had the chance to play with mine (or even bias it properly) so I'll have to get back to you on how mine behaves. What kind of BBD's did you use?

Yeah man, I do understand that they are supposed to be dark and get darker. As of now my frame of reference includes a DOD FX90 (MN3005), an Aquaboy (MN3005), a DM-2 (MN3205), and an Ibanez AD202 (MN3005). The Dirtbag is just so much darker.

Anyway, I should probably start a new thread so I don't detract from your build, but please let me know what you think when you get a chance to really play yours.

edit: forgot to say that my Dirtbag has MN3005's
Title: Re: Just another Dirtbag!
Post by: varfalex on January 21, 2013, 09:16:49 PM
Probably there is a wrong caracitor value or something in your build. I found my dirtbag and memory man to be brighter than AD-202 which I had in a past. As for the reference please check out these dirtbags:

 


Cheers,
Alexander