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Open Discussion / Re: Gibson files Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
« on: May 12, 2018, 01:32:07 PM »
Exactly. And just because you use a CNC, itís not like the pieces are ready to go when you get them. And with things like necks, thereís a lot of room for error and a lot of bad necks that we throw away. The quality control eats up a lot...and hat cost has to be factored in. Wood is not a perfect thing and there is a lot of variationóand thatís before you get into the pretty/master grade stuff.

There's also the cost of running a business (which extends beyond labor).

We've found that out with Function F(x).  Even with ordering higher quantities of parts, once you actually factor in the cost of labor and running the business, a pedal is significantly more expensive than a DIY build.  Particularly if you use better grade parts.

Exactly. There are a lot of associated costs.

That said, it doesnít sound like Gibson was running a tight and efficient shop.

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Open Discussion / Re: Gibson files Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
« on: May 12, 2018, 01:23:31 PM »
Exactly. And just because you use a CNC, itís not like the pieces are ready to go when you get them. And with things like necks, thereís a lot of room for error and a lot of bad necks that we throw away. The quality control eats up a lot...and hat cost has to be factored in. Wood is not a perfect thing and there is a lot of variationóand thatís before you get into the pretty/master grade stuff.

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Open Discussion / Re: Gibson files Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
« on: May 12, 2018, 12:28:18 PM »
From what I can tell with other boutique makers...

BUT... Gibson is NOT a boutique builder. They are a major guitar manufacturer.

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Of course, labor wise itís all fairly close to the same as most/all use CNC machines and finish from there.

Exactly!!

I actually work for a boutique guitar maker and youíd be shocked to know how much it costs to make a non-fancy guitar/bass. The margins are a lot slimmer than you would think.

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Open Discussion / Re: Identifying a fuzz tone
« on: March 05, 2018, 12:30:15 AM »
That is my morning jacket...

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Best pedal I've ever used with bass is a compressor.  Super helpful when recording.
There are several variations to try.  ( optical, OTA, VCA, ... )

I agree and also feel that a slight boost can do wonders for your signal. A comp usually adds just the right amount of boost as well.

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Hey JR.  Interested in your bass pedal ideas.  Curious though, would the circuits you mentioned be stock BOMs or with components tweaked for bass.  I'm not much of a guitar player and even less of a bass player, but interested in adding some compression, drive and octave or chorus options for a Jazz Bass.  Thanks.

Bruce, I'll PM you... got the boards from you! Thanks.

The Boss octaver is fine as is. Muff's are a journey--don't give up. I went through a lot of them to find the one that is right for me, which ended up being the civil war. Never could quite make the pharoah, green russian, ram's head, etc work for me. All good, but not for my sound. The DOD 250 has been a nice surprise for me the past few months. I fixed one for someone, but knew nothing about it. Ends up that it makes a nice light OD/dirty boost. Really gives that nice edge of distortion sound. Very worth building. The DAM Ezekial, which has a blend, is also really good for that kind of thing. I also built a bass Klon and that never really did it for me. It was always just too much gain and too loud.

The envelope filter is something that I just have had so much trouble finding just what worked. I never like to go with a commercial pedal, but the Source Audio is really good and dependable.

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Thanks for all the advice, I'll look at modding a few of my pedals. The Kraken works great for me with bass, although it has a big volume boost. I get better results with my 3 Leaf GR2 than my Naughty Fish. I did build a Wooly Mammoth Clone that is monstrous and huge, but I don't use it much. I wanted a real gated fuzz bass sound to try and get a synth tone. The Bloviator is really amazing for the bass. Thanks again for the direction.

I never got good results from my kraken, but glad it works for you! I have a nautilus with a blend and can sometimes get a great sound, but it's hard to find again if I lose it. The source audio bass envelope (I have an older one) is pretty easy to dial in every time. For a synth tone, try an octave into an envelope. The boss octave into my source audio sounds really good.

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Instrad of an eq, i just go with an onboard pre. I have a 3 band nordstrand i really like and a 2 Band Sadowsky. Diff tools for different basses.

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Iím a bass player and work for a bass builder.

I have been back and forth on all of this for years.

Currently, Iím liking an old boss octave>civil war muff with blend>DOD 250 clone>smoothie>source audio envelope filter

I have a bass zirconium comp that Iím almost done with to add to this.

Does the kraken work for you? I never felt like it was deep or thick enough.

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Open Discussion / Re: Neck alignment on a guitar build
« on: January 19, 2018, 06:22:38 AM »
You want to get a block and sand right inside the Treble side of the neck pocket towards the back of the pocket. This will allow some space for the neck to move. Though take with a grain as i havenít seen the actual guitar. Also, Iíd first try loosening the bolts and seeing if you can just push the neck into alignment and then retigjtening.

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Open Discussion / Re: L5 Preamp on Amps & Axes podcast with Alchemy Audio
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:58:53 AM »
Thanks! Just put that one in my que. i feel the same way about the wampler podcast. Sometimes itís great but they cannot stay focused and they think they are way more entertaining than they actually are.

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Open Discussion / Re: Octave > Envelope on bass... *that* sound
« on: December 23, 2017, 09:01:16 AM »
Also, have you tried the Merlin u-boat? Pretty good synth sounds on that one: http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/uboat.html

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Open Discussion / Re: Octave > Envelope on bass... *that* sound
« on: December 23, 2017, 08:46:39 AM »
Thanks for this post!  Just at the start of a similar journey. I have read a lot of great stuff about the broughton effects: http://broughtonaudio.bigcartel.com/products

I get the sense that the joshwah doesnít get very ďwetĒ sounding and i like that about the source audio bef. Is that accurate? Also, whatís better about his oc2 version?

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Open Discussion / Re: Octave > Envelope on bass... *that* sound
« on: December 22, 2017, 09:55:48 AM »
Sounds like you might enjoy the Micro Synth... if only someone was to produce a PCB for it... 8)

So..you're saying there is a chance?
I don't see why not, it's not hard to convert to LM13700.

I would definitely build it...

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Open Discussion / Re: Octave > Envelope on bass... *that* sound
« on: December 22, 2017, 06:23:38 AM »
Iíd love that! I had a big box one years ago that had issues with true bypass but sounded great.

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