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Neutrinos black & Burst
« on: August 20, 2011, 11:54:11 AM »
I was wondering how many of you have built both versions and use both on your pedal boards. I'm going to build the burst tonight and wondered if there's enough of a difference worth having both.
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Re: Neutrinos black & Burst
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 11:59:36 AM »
Some have reported differences. I think the biggest difference maker is the pot change to be honest. The part changes are fairly minor, and they will affect the circuit a small amount, but not a lot based on my experience.

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Re: Neutrinos black & Burst
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 04:03:46 PM »
I recall reading someone's build report who built burst, didn't like it, and rebuilt it to black specs. The smaller pot value means it would have less gain/volume--which I honestly wouldn't mind (mine's Burst). Gain on mine usually stays a fair bit below halfway.

The extra diode in the Burst version makes it more dynamic/touch sensitive, while the 2:1 diode setup apparently gives the Black one some moderate asymmetrical clipping...but you could build it to your own specs: diodes affect clipping characteristics while the input cap affects frequency response, pot values affect magnitude of that value, etc.

In my opinion, you're better off building/putting on your board differently voiced overdrives than two slightly tweaked TS clones
« Last Edit: August 20, 2011, 04:16:01 PM by jtn191 »

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Re: Neutrinos black & Burst
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 04:40:49 PM »
Thanks guys. I appreciate the detail jtn, that's great insight for a noob like me.
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Re: Neutrinos black & Burst
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 07:18:43 AM »
I built both and kept both.  The Black is brighter, clearer and cleaner ... a great country tone.  The Burst is more like a TS, but not as much midrange.  I prefer my Clay Jones TS clone over the Burst.  The Black version is on my board and I use it each time I play.  If I were you, I'd build both ... then you have both ;D  Also, I put a 10K resistor across the outside lugs of the 5K tone pot (makes a 3.3K pot) to tame the highs on the Black version.

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Re: Neutrinos black & Burst
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 08:27:18 AM »
This is the first I've heard of the Clay Jones Overdrive, but it sounds incredible here
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Re: Neutrinos black & Burst
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 12:31:59 PM »
I've already etched two boards, so why not I guess ;D.

I've never heard the Clay Jones OD, but agree with jtn, that thing sounds great. Thanks for the additional info Doug.
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