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Tractor Beam distorted?

Started by greenskull, January 18, 2018, 03:18:22 PM

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greenskull

I just finished up the Tractor Beam phaser and all controls work, but distorts at all settings. I know that getting rid of the feedback resistor helps the Phase 90 clean up, but turning the feedback knob all the way down doesn't help the Tractor Beam. Anybody else experiencing this?

     

madbean

One common cause of distortion can be incorrect VB rail voltages. I'd start by comparing the build voltages in the docs. If those look good the next step would be audio probing to see where the distortion is introduced.

greenskull

Thanks for the reply, Madbean.
My voltages look to be alright. I tried the audio probe, but I can't quite follow the schematic. Signal going into OPA2134 is clear and strong, so it must be a problem at the phase stages? Pin 7 of TLE2074 sounded good, but pins 2 and 3 sounded thin and raspy. I don't know, I might take the board out of enclosure and double check my soldering next.
    A question: Could I have screwed up the orientation of the resistor arrays?
                      Thanks for the help!

Droogie

The resistor arrays don't need to be oriented in a specific way according to the build doc, so you're good there!
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madbean

Correct, resistor array orientation in this build doesn't matter. How about your 2N5952? Are they a matched set?

Maybe a clear pic of the top of your build.

greenskull

The 2n5952's are matched in the 1.49-1.50 range. Solder side "looks" to be okay, but I will reflow to make sure. I did use a 1/2 watt 4.3 volt zener I had on hand, not a 1 watt rated one and I used 1.5k resistors instead of 1.43k. I don't have a phone or camera (hard to believe, I know) but will post a pic as soon as possible somehow.
    No worries, I'll get it sorted.

madbean

None of those changes/differences should cause a problem. I'll wait for the pic and see if I can spot something.

greenskull

Thanks, Brian. Still no pics, but maybe a clue: I pulled all 4 jfets out and the sound was crystal clear. I'll keep at it... it's gotta be a problem around the phase stages.

greenskull

Caught my neighbor at the fence and he took some shots for me  :).
Removed jfets for the pics. Also, one of the 10k resistor's pads got fudged when I removed previous resistor so I had to wrap around board to solder to other side.
I checked resistors with meter, so they should be all correct values. Caps are tight between resistor array and chip, so can't see values.

greenskull


Aentons

Your OPA2134 looks funny. You sure it's legit?

greenskull

Quote from: Aentons on January 23, 2018, 06:00:37 PM
Your OPA2134 looks funny. You sure it's legit?

Thanks for taking a look. I got the OPA2134 several (probably more) years ago directly from the Texas Instruments sample program. I can swap it out with a different chip to see if it helps.

greenskull

AAARGH! Still no luck!
I think I'm gonna build up a phase 90 "Script" circuit with my matched jfets and see if they are the culprit.

Aentons

How do you even get it in the case with the wire and cap hanging off the edge of the board?

greenskull

#14
I thought I might've put in wrong resistor value there, but when I attempted to remove it and replace it, I broke off one of the leads inside the pcb and couldn't get it out. I just temporarily did what I could to see if that was the problem. Didn't have some of the caps in compact size, so I laid them down to fit in enclosure.
   I have more success debugging etched boards.... a lot easier to unsolder components and add holes if needed.