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Started by jimilee, October 18, 2025, 07:43:58 PM

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jimilee

Pedal building is like the opposite of sex.  All the fun stuff happens before you get in the box.

NorthCoast

Huh, I thought they'd retired and rode off into the sunset...
"People discuss my art and pretend to understand as if it were necessary to understand..." - Claude Monet

jimilee

Quote from: NorthCoast on October 19, 2025, 10:22:29 PMHuh, I thought they'd retired and rode off into the sunset...
Dunno yet. Maybe they aren't ready to give up, yet?


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Pedal building is like the opposite of sex.  All the fun stuff happens before you get in the box.

lars

#3
Selling email addresses can be quite profitable. What better way to get people to willingly send a bunch of them to you!
How to Monetize, Rent, or Sell Email Addresses
Just within reading the first few sentences of that site you come across this gem:
"If you have good content, getting email addresses will be relatively easy; visitors will opt in to your e-newsletters, or hand over their contact information in exchange for access to some unique piece of content or tool."
Does it say anywhere on that BYOC placeholder page that they won't sell your email address?
Nope. It's probably not even the same people who own the name anymore.
Focus on addressing the source, not the symptom.

jessenator

"All you need is fuzz"   ~not Lennon

matmosphere

I am guessing that somebody brought the business from them or something to that effect. I thought smallbear was going to be gone, but they got bought and have reopened (did they even close?)

Pedals have become a big business these days. Google says the market size was $3.6 billion in 2024, but in 2020 it was less than 1 billion, by some estimates only about 500 million. That is a huge amount of growth in the market. It may not have made sense for somebody to buy it a couple of years ago when they were closing up shop but with the pedal market probably doubling in that time maybe somebody decided the math was more in their favor. 

jimilee

Quote from: matmosphere on October 22, 2025, 04:51:39 AMI am guessing that somebody brought the business from them or something to that effect. I thought smallbear was going to be gone, but they got bought and have reopened (did they even close?)

Pedals have become a big business these days. Google says the market size was $3.6 billion in 2024, but in 2020 it was less than 1 billion, by some estimates only about 500 million. That is a huge amount of growth in the market. It may not have made sense for somebody to buy it a couple of years ago when they were closing up shop but with the pedal market probably doubling in that time maybe somebody decided the math was more in their favor.



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madbean

Quote from: matmosphere on October 22, 2025, 04:51:39 AMI am guessing that somebody brought the business from them or something to that effect. I thought smallbear was going to be gone, but they got bought and have reopened (did they even close?)

Pedals have become a big business these days. Google says the market size was $3.6 billion in 2024, but in 2020 it was less than 1 billion, by some estimates only about 500 million. That is a huge amount of growth in the market. It may not have made sense for somebody to buy it a couple of years ago when they were closing up shop but with the pedal market probably doubling in that time maybe somebody decided the math was more in their favor. 

Can verify. I made $1B this year.

jimilee

Quote from: madbean on October 22, 2025, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: matmosphere on October 22, 2025, 04:51:39 AMI am guessing that somebody brought the business from them or something to that effect. I thought smallbear was going to be gone, but they got bought and have reopened (did they even close?)

Pedals have become a big business these days. Google says the market size was $3.6 billion in 2024, but in 2020 it was less than 1 billion, by some estimates only about 500 million. That is a huge amount of growth in the market. It may not have made sense for somebody to buy it a couple of years ago when they were closing up shop but with the pedal market probably doubling in that time maybe somebody decided the math was more in their favor. 

Can verify. I made $1B this year.
Dollars?


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jessenator

"All you need is fuzz"   ~not Lennon

aion

Gotta be someone else taking over. Keith really ran out of steam the last 4-5 years before they shut down. Tons of stock issues and only one new product during that period. This is a whole new website with Shopify, so I'm guessing it's a SBE situation where someone bought all the inventory and designs.

jwin615

The whois mailing address is Kalkofnsvegur 2, Reykjavik, Capital Region, 101
If you Google this address, there are a ton of scams associated with it.

jessenator

Is Iceland so bored they've resorted to a scam economy?  :P  Grow your bananas, you geothermic hooligans
"All you need is fuzz"   ~not Lennon

jwin615

Quote from: jessenator on October 25, 2025, 01:48:19 AMIs Iceland so bored they've resorted to a scam economy?  :P  Grow your bananas, you geothermic hooligans
Apparently that site is a "buy your doing business as address here" kind of thing. Probably for tax evasion and also secrecy.
P.O. box for shell companies.

matmosphere

Quote from: madbean on October 22, 2025, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: matmosphere on October 22, 2025, 04:51:39 AMI am guessing that somebody brought the business from them or something to that effect. I thought smallbear was going to be gone, but they got bought and have reopened (did they even close?)

Pedals have become a big business these days. Google says the market size was $3.6 billion in 2024, but in 2020 it was less than 1 billion, by some estimates only about 500 million. That is a huge amount of growth in the market. It may not have made sense for somebody to buy it a couple of years ago when they were closing up shop but with the pedal market probably doubling in that time maybe somebody decided the math was more in their favor. 

Can verify. I made $1B this year.

Sweet, bet those lambo payments are nothing now.


I still don't get why in an industry full of custom guitar and amp builders that charge a premium over factory built stuff (rightfully so), there is no real market for custom pedals. I'll stop the rant now.

Either way, I would be happy to see BYOC back, if for no other reason than it would mean the original owners probably got a nice payday out of selling the business.