QuoteThe Amnesia pedal brings back the warm and murky sounds of vintage analog delay units. Each mode of the Amnesia is carefully tweaked by our sonic scientists to provide the tone and response of a specific vintage bucket brigade device (BBD.)
The switch on the thing is what made it pop out for me.
MN3005
SAD4096
MN3208
I wonder what chip they are using to emulate the different modes.
Not to bad priced either.
Cody
Smells like hype to me...
Really? How many people out there know the differences between... HELL.... even know what those switch settings mean?
To quote them.
From their info it breaks down like this:
Mode Toggle:
MN3208 - mimics a 2048-stage bucket brigade with excellent fidelity. Warm repeats and mild "bucket loss," where each of the delay repeats becomes a bit softer and more diffuse.
SAD4096 - based on a rare rack mount delay unit, the SAD4096 mode is designed to work like a special bucket brigade originally manufactured by Reticon. The SAD4096 has a very distinct tone as the delay clock gets slower, so that long delay times have a pronounced distortion character. The SAD4096 mode also breaks in to oscillation a bit sooner than the other modes.
MN3208 - the final mode is based on a more recent delay unit with four lower-capacity bucket brigade chips. As the longer BBD units were phased out of production, effects companies started doubling up shorter delay chips in order to maintain the same delay time. Doubling up these chips sometimes causes additional losses, which are audible in this mode as a darker echo tone. Use the MN3208 mode if you want soft and murky repeats, ideal for ambient pads and washes.
Would I be that far off to think its another PT2399 delay, voiced to sound like those chips? Akin to the Dirt Baby?
I'm thinking it's a digital delay. FV-1?
Steve.
Quote from: selfdestroyer on April 09, 2015, 05:53:40 PMDoubling up these chips sometimes causes additional losses.
lol wut?
PT2399...now with three position treble roll off filter?
*shakes head*
So... say what you want about it, but I'll stick up for them.
Alexander is run by Matthew Farrow and the guys at Disaster Area Designs (whose midi controllers and programmable bypass loopers are awesome, I own a DMC-6D, a DPC-8EZ, and their SmartClock). Stand up, good people. I have no doubt that their pedals are original designs, as Matthew knows what he's doing under the hood of things.
Plus, they do good. Alexander is named after Matthew's brother, who died of cancer when he was a child. They give back on everything they sell. From their site:
"Alexander Pedals was started for two reasons - to make great tones, and to do good. The great tones part you probably have some idea about. As for doing good, Alexander Pedals donates a portion of the profits from every pedal sold to charity. Matthew's younger brother Alex passed away in 1987 of a form of cancer called neuroblastoma. Alexander Pedals honors his memory by helping in the fight to end childhood cancer.
If you buy an Alexander Pedals effect on the used market, we'd like to welcome you to the family! We honor the warranty on secondhand units as if they were new. We would ask that you consider donating to one of our favorite charities - contact us if you'd like to donate!"
That's all.
Amnesia delay....now there's an oxymoron
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I'd actually be kinda surprised if this wasn't DSP based.... but who knows.
They are DSP.... from their site...
"Are your pedals analog or digital? Most of our initial offerings (Amnesia, Equilibrium, Radical Delay) are digital, utilizing a 24-bit DSP architecture. The Litho Boost is fully analog. Future products may be analog or digital, depending on the effect desired."
And then this is in their FAQ as well:
"Will you make me a clone of (insert pedal name here?) No. We don't clone or copy existing designs. We might build something that works in a similar manner to an existing product (the Amnesia is a great example) but you can rest assured that all of our hardware and DSP designs are 100% original. We don't make Tube Screamers, because Ibanez already makes several great ones."
And I believe he's not just blowing smoke there. The guy knows what he's doing.
Supposedly, some Strymon delays use digital programming to simulate the individual 'buckets' in analog delay chips. Possible these guys could be doing something similar.
My vote goes for FV-1
Quote from: irmcdermott on April 10, 2015, 02:47:32 PM
So... say what you want about it, but I'll stick up for them.
Alexander is run by Matthew Farrow and the guys at Disaster Area Designs (whose midi controllers and programmable bypass loopers are awesome, I own a DMC-6D, a DPC-8EZ, and their SmartClock). Stand up, good people. I have no doubt that their pedals are original designs, as Matthew knows what he's doing under the hood of things.
Plus, they do good. Alexander is named after Matthew's brother, who died of cancer when he was a child. They give back on everything they sell. From their site:
"Alexander Pedals was started for two reasons - to make great tones, and to do good. The great tones part you probably have some idea about. As for doing good, Alexander Pedals donates a portion of the profits from every pedal sold to charity. Matthew's younger brother Alex passed away in 1987 of a form of cancer called neuroblastoma. Alexander Pedals honors his memory by helping in the fight to end childhood cancer.
If you buy an Alexander Pedals effect on the used market, we'd like to welcome you to the family! We honor the warranty on secondhand units as if they were new. We would ask that you consider donating to one of our favorite charities - contact us if you'd like to donate!"
That's all.
This is good to know.
... but the line I quoted still made me chuckle.
Amnesia Delay? Sounds like something I'd build with all the odd parts laying around that I can't remember why I ordered ;D
I'll chime in on this one, if I may.
The Amnesia and our other three DSP pedals do use the FV-1. I've been programming that chip since '06, go peep the Spin forum for posts by "pharaohamps." I do know a little bit about this stuff, and while the PT2399 was an appealing choice I didn't feel that it would be the right way to go.
The different modes are based on a few different delay units that I really dig. Each mode has different filtering / frequency response, saturation character, and feedback characteristics. I couldn't really call the modes the same names as the units they represent, so I used the delay chip designators. It gets people talking, that's for sure!
Could I have done an analog version with the same setup? Hell yes. Controlling a few analog switches to bring each delay in and out of the audio path is easy. You'd also need a couple of CMOS buffers to prevent the BBDs from loading down the clock signals, not a big deal. But there's a lot in favor of the FV-1, long delay times for a start. ~1000 milliseconds of analog delay becomes prohibitively expensive and I wanted to keep the price point down. Using the same board for three different pedals keeps the development costs low as well. Lower prices for me = lower prices for you.
Go ahead, buy an Amnesia and tell me it doesn't stack up vs. a DMM. You won't hurt my feelings. But you might find that they are similar enough where it counts!
Any other questions about the line, please ask. I'm always happy to nerd out about pedals.
Thanks for posting. Looks like a really kick-ass pedal. 8)
Thanks Matthew. I really dig your designs and what your company is all about. I've just starting programming the FV-1. Lots and lots to learn. I'm going to check this delay pedal out and many of us here would love to learn more about FV-1 based circuits.
Thanks again.
Steve.
Props for responding man :)
One very good thing about the FV-1 is that firmware is a lot harder to reverse engineer than traditional componentry.
Thanks for the info Mathew, I am just getting my feet wet with the FV-1 at the moment. So far I have done a pretty decent chorus and delay combo but nothing life changing. I have to say that the switch names is what got me wondering what black magic you were using but I was leaning towards DSP like other here. Thanks for stopping by and explaining your pedal to us.
Another FV-1 pedal that I really dig right now is the Black Fountain Delay. FV-1 can make some great/unique sounding modulation pedals for sure.
Cody
Quote from: selfdestroyer on April 18, 2015, 04:52:08 AM
Another FV-1 pedal that I really dig right now is the Black Fountain Delay. FV-1 can make some great/unique sounding modulation pedals for sure.
http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/ (http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/)
See if you can guess who designed that one.
Quote from: DisasterArea on April 18, 2015, 12:22:26 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on April 18, 2015, 04:52:08 AM
Another FV-1 pedal that I really dig right now is the Black Fountain Delay. FV-1 can make some great/unique sounding modulation pedals for sure.
http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/ (http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/)
See if you can guess who designed that one.
Kudos for your designs man. OBNE FV-1 pedals are quite original and the Amnesia delay sounds really cool.
One question if you don't mind.... is the Equilibrium FV-1 based too?
Quote from: micromegas on April 18, 2015, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: DisasterArea on April 18, 2015, 12:22:26 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on April 18, 2015, 04:52:08 AM
Another FV-1 pedal that I really dig right now is the Black Fountain Delay. FV-1 can make some great/unique sounding modulation pedals for sure.
http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/ (http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/)
See if you can guess who designed that one.
Kudos for your designs man. OBNE FV-1 pedals are quite original and the Amnesia delay sounds really cool.
One question if you don't mind.... is the Equilibrium FV-1 based too?
The kudos belong to Brady Smith just as much as me. I design, then we get our heads together and tweak. That dude comes up with stuff I never would have thought of, like the flanger reverb on the Procession.
The Equilibrium is indeed FV-1 based as are our next two pedals due this summer.
Quote from: DisasterArea on April 18, 2015, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: micromegas on April 18, 2015, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: DisasterArea on April 18, 2015, 12:22:26 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on April 18, 2015, 04:52:08 AM
Another FV-1 pedal that I really dig right now is the Black Fountain Delay. FV-1 can make some great/unique sounding modulation pedals for sure.
http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/ (http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/about-obne-contact/)
See if you can guess who designed that one.
Kudos for your designs man. OBNE FV-1 pedals are quite original and the Amnesia delay sounds really cool.
One question if you don't mind.... is the Equilibrium FV-1 based too?
The kudos belong to Brady Smith just as much as me. I design, then we get our heads together and tweak. That dude comes up with stuff I never would have thought of, like the flanger reverb on the Procession.
The Equilibrium is indeed FV-1 based as are our next two pedals due this summer.
Thanks for the quick reply Matthew. Congrats to Brady too :) I think OBNE stuff is really interesting.
I see the FV-1 as a chip with a really great potential. It has some limitations but also some good features and that's what makes it interesting.
There's another FV-1 tremolo that I know of - Coldcraft's Harmonic tremolo (Austin is a member here too). Both Coldcraft's and yours sound awesome but I really liked the flexibility your design seems to have (only heard it on youtube).
Looking forward to see your new designs.