Hey guys,
It's been a while but I want to get back into to building.
I'm looking for something fairly specific project wise - what I really want is an octave down that will fit in a 1590b, any projects out there?
I really like the lowrider but don't need the -2 and +1 octaves, and i'm really OCD about redundant/un-used controls on a pedal, plus its bigger than what will fit on my board.
I built the THcustom U-boat, but it was too glitchy/clicky/synthy.
What I really want I guess is a chopped down boss OC2, with only the -1 and dry controls. but I don't think such a project exists.
anything else I should be aware of?
Or do I just need to layout a PCB for a stripped back OC2 myself?
Don't all analog octave down pedals sound glitchy/clicky/synthy? At least to me they all do. Great if you like that but I like my octave down to actually sound like an octave down. Methinks you want a 1590b octave down that's not glitchy/clicky/synthy, get a Nano Pog from EHX.
Quote from: the3secondrule on February 17, 2016, 08:30:29 AM
Hey guys,
It's been a while but I want to get back into to building.
I'm looking for something fairly specific project wise - what I really want is an octave down that will fit in a 1590b, any projects out there?
I really like the lowrider but don't need the -2 and +1 octaves, and i'm really OCD about redundant/un-used controls on a pedal, plus its bigger than what will fit on my board.
I built the THcustom U-boat, but it was too glitchy/clicky/synthy.
What I really want I guess is a chopped down boss OC2, with only the -1 and dry controls. but I don't think such a project exists.
anything else I should be aware of?
Or do I just need to layout a PCB for a stripped back OC2 myself?
http://vulcanofx.blogspot.com/search/label/octaver
the UBoat is literally the best analog single octave down there is. If it's not good enough for your purposes, you need a digital pedal like the POG.
Strippped?
http://vulcanofx.blogspot.com.es/search/label/octaver
Quote from: midwayfair on February 17, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
the UBoat is literally the best analog single octave down there is. If it's not good enough for your purposes, you need a digital pedal like the POG.
+1. Just built one of these, and it's amazing. It's glitchy, but the tracking control combined with the mix produce a really controlled experience with minimized glitching. Plus, it just sounds awesome.
Quote from: midwayfair on February 17, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
the UBoat is literally the best analog single octave down there is. If it's not good enough for your purposes, you need a digital pedal like the POG.
Interesting. I remember being rather underwhelmed with the uBoat, I thought the lowrider produced a much better low octave. Perhaps I need to revisit it
And I already have an EHX pitchfork, but I'd prefer something analog
Quote from: Spacebass on February 17, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Strippped?
http://vulcanofx.blogspot.com.es/search/label/octaver
Yes
Quote from: jimilee on February 17, 2016, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: Spacebass on February 17, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Strippped?
http://vulcanofx.blogspot.com.es/search/label/octaver
Yes
Ok, this looks cool. I may have to overcome my aversion to vero :)
It's scary, but when you get in to it, it's not so bad
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I second Jimi, Vero isn't so bad. It's kinda fun IMO, just be careful with the cuts and jumpers and you'll be just fine. Although PCBs with onboard pots have made me kinda lazy in that department lately.
Quote from: the3secondrule on February 17, 2016, 08:06:23 PM
Interesting. I remember being rather underwhelmed with the uBoat, I thought the lowrider produced a much better low octave. Perhaps I need to revisit it
And I already have an EHX pitchfork, but I'd prefer something analog
I really don't get the obsession some people have with analog. You have a superior product but you want an inferior one just because the Pitchfork is digital? There is not a single analog octaver out there that will come close to the tracking of the digital octavers. But if you're so dead set on getting an analog one I'm more then willing to relieve you off your Pitchfork if you want to get rid of it. ;)
Quote from: Muadzin on February 18, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: the3secondrule on February 17, 2016, 08:06:23 PM
Interesting. I remember being rather underwhelmed with the uBoat, I thought the lowrider produced a much better low octave. Perhaps I need to revisit it
And I already have an EHX pitchfork, but I'd prefer something analog
I really don't get the obsession some people have with analog. You have a superior product but you want an inferior one just because the Pitchfork is digital? There is not a single analog octaver out there that will come close to the tracking of the digital octavers. But if you're so dead set on getting an analog one I'm more then willing to relieve you off your Pitchfork if you want to get rid of it. ;)
I was just watching I Dream Of Wires the other day. There were a lot of good quotes about guitarist being the only people who are perfectly content using 50-60 year old technology. Interesting stuff, made me want to get into Euro rack stuff.
I will say though that the guitarist in my band has a micro pig and I thought it sounded very unnatural, but when he used it during a song and it was just in the mix it sounded great and cut through really well. Sometimes that artificial sound that digital effects have gets lost in the mix and those effects work better than I thought they would.
On VERO
For clean: Simplified OC-2 (only one octave down)
For synthy: Robot Devil
Love both of these.
Going to have to look into the UBoat. Low Rider sounds good and tracks really well but is big. The digital stuff tends to sound a bit sterile due to the nature that it's just math so it's pretty hard to just divide frequencies by two and have it sound natural. Flipside is that tracking is usually great and multiple frequencies can be handled (an entire chord versus single notes).
Isn't Brian working on an OC-2 version?
Quote from: Matmosphere on February 18, 2016, 02:51:33 PM
I was just watching I Dream Of Wires the other day. There were a lot of good quotes about guitarist being the only people who are perfectly content using 50-60 year old technology. Interesting stuff, made me want to get into Euro rack stuff.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if it were up to guitarists we still wouldn't have invented fire. Or the wheel. In our chosen field we're so arch conservative we make Tea Party republicans look enlightened by comparison.
QuoteI will say though that the guitarist in my band has a micro pig and I thought it sounded very unnatural, but when he used it during a song and it was just in the mix it sounded great and cut through really well. Sometimes that artificial sound that digital effects have gets lost in the mix and those effects work better than I thought they would.
Too many guitarists make the mistake of confusing ideal guitar tone
on their own as being just as well suited to be in a band mix. It really does require a whole new way of thinking. Even more so when you're not the only guitarist in a band.
As for digital sounding artificial, I just don't hear it. In this case I only hear a perfect octave down with none of that glitching and crappy tracking. If that sound artificial then I'll take that any day all the time over that socalled glitchy shitty all over the place analog rubbish.
You should PM DiabloChris6- I'm pretty sure he had a OSHpark project for a chopped OC-2.
EDIT: Here it is- https://oshpark.com/profiles/DiabloChris6/page/2
Quote from: Muadzin on February 18, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: the3secondrule on February 17, 2016, 08:06:23 PM
Interesting. I remember being rather underwhelmed with the uBoat, I thought the lowrider produced a much better low octave. Perhaps I need to revisit it
And I already have an EHX pitchfork, but I'd prefer something analog
I really don't get the obsession some people have with analog. You have a superior product but you want an inferior one just because the Pitchfork is digital? There is not a single analog octaver out there that will come close to the tracking of the digital octavers. But if you're so dead set on getting an analog one I'm more then willing to relieve you off your Pitchfork if you want to get rid of it. ;) make me an offer
Haha, yeah the Pitchfork is up for grabs if you want :)
As above, I like the sound of the OC2 and lowrider, I just wanted a slightly smaller project. The chopped OC2 fits the bill, so I'm going to have a crack at it.
I like the sound and the limitations of the analog octavers, what I didn't like about the uBoat was the handling/string noise, and a clicking sound that change rate dependent on what note was played. I saw a few others had this issue as well and I didn't think it had be resolved.
If your serious regarding the Pitchfork I'll take it. I can't get mine off of my sons pedal board....
Quote from: dropanchor812 on February 18, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
You should PM DiabloChris6- I'm pretty sure he had a OSHpark project for a chopped OC-2.
EDIT: Here it is- https://oshpark.com/profiles/DiabloChris6/page/2
This looks like good project, but maybe 125B rather than 1590B? PM sent to DiabloChris6 to see if it's verified and whether there's a BOM and wiring guide.