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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: movinginslomo on November 08, 2016, 01:46:58 AM

Title: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: movinginslomo on November 08, 2016, 01:46:58 AM
purchased a digitech x-series digiverb for it's reverse reverb setting (few pedals do this) to get that My Bloody Valentine Keven Shields thing going. Now two youtube vids contradict each other once says before the distortion, one says after. Is anyone here into that of has done this? I can't get get that vibe going for the life of me

EDIT: reverse REVERB not reverse delay my bad
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: chuckd666 on November 08, 2016, 05:00:27 AM
Do you have a vibrato bridge on your guitar? ;)
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: Cortexturizer on November 08, 2016, 10:04:01 AM
is't reverse reverb what you need? I may be wrong
and yeah a vibrato bridge on the guitar is a must for that kind of sound. I'd recommend a Mustang even though Kevin is a Jaguar user, the easiest and coolest vibrato bridge ever
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: Bret608 on November 08, 2016, 02:15:38 PM
I remember reading years ago that it's a reverse reverb sound. He used some Yamaha rackmount unit to get that. I'd guess distortion comes first judging by his propensity for pedals.

With the vibrato on my Mustang, I've never had much trouble getting close to his sound. You just kind of keep working it as you strum chords, mainly pulling up on the bar. It will get that almost backwards sound, particularly with a healthy amount of overdrive.

In other Kevin Shields-related items, I took a look at the R.M. Voodoo Vibe on his pedalboard, which has the settings conveniently marked. I set my Pangea vibe up the same way--instant MBV! It's a dreamy, thick tremolo setting.
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: thesmokingman on November 08, 2016, 09:34:15 PM
do share the settings for the voodoo vibe
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: selfdestroyer on November 09, 2016, 02:34:13 AM
I have had a lot of fun and kind of sounded like MBV with the following (The gear really doesn't matter much, just what I use):

Path follows list
Jazzmaster
digitech RV-7
Bigmuff or a Rat
70's Bassman

The RV-7 has a great reverse reverb and also a great gated reverb that nails a lot of the shoegaze stuff. I need to play with the RV-7 more to get used to it as playing with reverse reverb can be really weird at first.

I also have been experimenting with my Strymon Big Sky and using some nonlinear settings. Adding dirt after a reverb can get you that lush "wall of sound" pretty quickly.

Cody
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: Strategy on November 09, 2016, 05:41:53 AM
A rackmount from that era which might have it, Yamaha SPX90. Always cheap and abundant, yet enjoys a cult status
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: Cortexturizer on November 09, 2016, 09:41:42 AM
Digitech RV7 is an awesome and overlooked reverb pedal. I should buy one and leave it in a drawer.
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: movinginslomo on November 09, 2016, 06:39:45 PM
Yes the Yamaha SPX90, couldn't find one in my budget at the time. Sot's also the tremolo pedal and vibrato bar? And please do post those voodoo vibe settings
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: Bret608 on November 09, 2016, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: Strategy on November 09, 2016, 05:41:53 AM
A rackmount from that era which might have it, Yamaha SPX90. Always cheap and abundant, yet enjoys a cult status

Here you go:

Mode: Tremolo
Waveform: Middle notch on "classic" group (i.e. second notch from right)
Speed: 2:00
Symmetry: 11:00
Intensity: 5:00
Bias: 1:00-2:00
Volume: 5:00
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: gül on November 10, 2016, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: chuckd666 on November 08, 2016, 05:00:27 AM
Do you have a vibrato bridge on your guitar? ;)

Rumor has it that MBV used the pitch knob on their tape machines to get those detuned warbles. I've done it on my tape machines and it's such a cool effect!
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: Addy Bart on November 10, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
There's several Yamaha units with the reverse reverb algorithm Shields uses. I have an FX500. It's great for that Slowdive wash as well.

Look at the tohereknowsweb forum... There's a former roadie who occasionally posts there about the set up MBV used back in the day.
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: selfdestroyer on November 10, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
Also might want to look a the new Keeley Loomer pedal.. I did and now gassing over it pretty bad. Seems like a nice "all in one" package.

Cody
Title: Re: the MBV reverse delay sound
Post by: movinginslomo on November 10, 2016, 11:29:05 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on November 10, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
Also might want to look a the new Keeley Loomer pedal.. I did and now gassing over it pretty bad. Seems like a nice "all in one" package.

Cody

gggg GAHHA damn you. Had to look that up. me want. also UNAVAILABLE anywhere. :(