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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: movinginslomo on July 10, 2024, 09:01:24 PM

Title: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on July 10, 2024, 09:01:24 PM
I know there's a vero layout, but does anyone make a PCB? Preferably to fit in a 1590b?
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on July 12, 2024, 06:59:14 PM
Hi.
I love runoffgroove designs so I've designed quickly a PCB for you.
Check the attached files and tell me if you want me to put the PCB on OSHPARK.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on July 12, 2024, 07:44:04 PM
Quote from: zombiesonore on July 12, 2024, 06:59:14 PMHi.
I love runoffgroove designs so I've designed quickly a PCB for you.
Check the attached files and tell me if you want me to put the PCB on OSHPARK.

oh please do!
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on July 13, 2024, 07:35:37 AM
https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/W3cNombI

I'll post a pdf file with BOM and basic drill template soon.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on July 13, 2024, 05:35:02 PM
Link to doc on OSHpark added.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: Aentons on July 14, 2024, 10:43:16 PM
Wow, this is cool
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on July 15, 2024, 02:28:28 AM
Quote from: zombiesonore on July 13, 2024, 05:35:02 PMLink to doc on OSHpark added.

Ordered! Thank you my friend
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on October 10, 2024, 05:49:07 PM
getting ready to solder.. does this take an spdt on/on or on/off/on? I'm thinking the former?
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: gordo on October 10, 2024, 10:01:12 PM
I'm curious to see how this pans out for you in terms of sounding like a rockman.  Hoping for some sound clips??
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on October 10, 2024, 11:54:12 PM
Quote from: gordo on October 10, 2024, 10:01:12 PMI'm curious to see how this pans out for you in terms of sounding like a rockman.  Hoping for some sound clips??

will do in time.... the breadboard version is promising
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: jwin615 on October 11, 2024, 01:15:23 AM
Just a note
Cybercow over on PPCB had a x1000 PCB at one point. Also, see the proposition PCB. Maybe will scrath an itch.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on October 11, 2024, 05:17:19 AM
@movinginslomo
It's on/on.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on October 11, 2024, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: zombiesonore on October 11, 2024, 05:17:19 AM@movinginslomo
It's on/on.

I was assuming, but didn't want to resolder. I may start soldering today even
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: gordo on October 11, 2024, 11:04:22 PM
Bingo, the Proposition.  I like that circuit and I thought it did a really good job of covering the tone of the original but the Rockman sound is also based on the delay ("reverb") and chorus so it took a fair bit of stuff to duplicate.

Still it sounded very cool and I've loved the pedal.  I don't get a chance to play it out live but at some point praise band music will come around to 80's radio rock and I'll be at the forefront :-)
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: dead_aatish on November 04, 2024, 06:46:35 AM
Totally get where you're coming from! I've seen a few PCBs that work with vero layouts, especially on sites like Tayda or even in some DIY pedal forums. They usually have designs that fit perfectly in a 1590B. If you're up for it, designing your own with software like KiCad can be a fun challenge too—I tried it for a couple of my builds, and it was really rewarding to see it all come together.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on April 14, 2025, 04:11:02 PM
She's finally together boys, but she's passing a very weak signal.. any ideas where to start? I checked with multiple IC's (including verified legit new) so I don't think it is that
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: jimilee on April 14, 2025, 08:21:47 PM
Quote from: movinginslomo on April 14, 2025, 04:11:02 PMShe's finally together boys, but she's passing a very weak signal.. any ideas where to start? I checked with multiple IC's (including verified legit new) so I don't think it is that
Voltages, clear closeup pics or front and back and a schematic. Reflow all your solder joints, check for bridges and reflow all your solder joints.


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Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on April 16, 2025, 06:00:26 PM
reflowed and checked values. I did notice on zombiesnore's build doc it calls for a 47n output filter cap while on the runoffgroove site it calls for a 470pf cap. I am using a jrc4558 op amp. I am going to breadboard this circuit and see if I get the same result
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on April 18, 2025, 09:48:46 PM
If there's a difference between my doc and runoffgroove's schematic then the mystake is on my side of course.
I'm not at home this week so I don't have access to my files for checking any mistake...
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on April 18, 2025, 11:25:44 PM
Quote from: zombiesonore on April 18, 2025, 09:48:46 PMIf there's a difference between my doc and runoffgroove's schematic then the mystake is on my side of course.
I'm not at home this week so I don't have access to my files for checking any mistake...

when I get time I'm gonna try and breadboard the parts and see if it works as intended.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on April 19, 2025, 09:18:09 AM
Hi !
As I don't have access to my kicad files, I've downloaded my own pdf...
1) Why didn't I put my schematic on the pdf ? Why ? :-/
2) On my B.O.M. the output cap, parallel to the volume pot, is C7 and call for 330p to 680p (Cx on runoffgroove's schematic). So no mistake here. 470p is a good start.
3) Can you post photos of your build, maybe it's a simple wiring issue ?
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on April 19, 2025, 09:30:47 AM
Footswitch wiring scheme is the same as the one found here https://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/_folders/DistBoostOD/pdf/Deadringer2022.pdf (left switch of course.)
For the jacks, pads are left: GND, right: signal, components side.
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on April 20, 2025, 04:06:11 PM
yes I used madbean switch wiring. I'll try and get some pics when I have some time
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on April 22, 2025, 03:17:00 PM
life gets in the way. Pics or it didn't happen?

(https://i.imgur.com/3O8ujJa.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BXObIPl.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2Bh0AQ7.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Un2C8bZ.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1HUjWyP.jpeg)
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: zombiesonore on April 27, 2025, 10:10:27 AM
Here's my schematic attached.
Main difference is that I put a 1N5817 diode instead of a 100 Ohm resistance.
Added a 100n capacitor for IC power filtering.

On your pictures I didn't see any wiring mistake so maybe just reflow everything and check for bridges ?
Title: Re: runoffgrove mockman PCB?
Post by: movinginslomo on April 30, 2025, 07:22:09 PM
ah thanks I'll breadboard at some point