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Poll: who snips before soldering?

Started by Philthy, February 23, 2020, 11:07:33 PM

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HamSandwich

Quote from: Philthy on February 24, 2020, 11:11:31 PM
Thanks for the replies guys.

Quote from: Aentons on February 24, 2020, 08:49:56 PM
Quote from: HamSandwich on February 24, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
My mind is blown that people snip then solder. I refuse to believe this isn't a dream.

I don't understand how you would even be able to solder without the component falling out if you don't bend the leads

^This is fundamentally why I started the thread. .

We're talking sniping, not bending! Of course you have to bend, unless you use blue tak or similar.

Thewintersoldier

I populate all components and trim the leads before soldering. I like being able to do one last check that all the right components are in the right spot before soldering. And there is something really gratifying about soldering everything all at once. If you bend the leads right before you snip nothing moves when its flipped over.
Who the hell is Bucky?

pickdropper

Quote from: EBK on February 24, 2020, 02:55:58 PM
Ok.  I'm going to add one of these to my Amazon cart soon.

They seem to be called cut-and-bend or cut-and-clinch tools.  Anyone own one?

These are also known as PCB cutters.  I've got a couple of the Erem versions.  They are very useful, just make sure you buy the one that sets the height you are looking for.  I recommend 0.8mm or 1.0mm (I have both).  If I only had one, I'd got 1.0mm. 

They feel a bit different as the cutting is more of a shearing action.  Useful buggers, though. 

These are also known as PCB cutters. 
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Bio77

Quote from: pickdropper on February 27, 2020, 01:03:37 PM
These are also known as PCB cutters.  I've got a couple of the Erem versions.  They are very useful, just make sure you buy the one that sets the height you are looking for.  I recommend 0.8mm or 1.0mm (I have both).  If I only had one, I'd got 1.0mm. 

Do you have a good source or link for these? The only one I can find is the one EBK linked to on Amazon. 

somnif

#34
Here's another option from Erem. 116$ of swiss engineering! https://www.amazon.com/Erem-530E10-040-Cutter-1-0mm/dp/B0012B6MVC

Or, 408$ of glorious American-made metal! https://www.amazon.com/Cut-Clinch-Pliers-Standoff-EX-530FE-US/dp/B01EKL5N9W

pickdropper

Quote from: somnif on February 28, 2020, 12:41:39 AM
Here's another option from Erem. 116$ of swiss engineering! https://www.amazon.com/Erem-530E10-040-Cutter-1-0mm/dp/B0012B6MVC

Or, 408$ of glorious American-made metal! https://www.amazon.com/Cut-Clinch-Pliers-Standoff-EX-530FE-US/dp/B01EKL5N9W

Those Erems are one of the ones I have.  You can find them much cheaper than that.  We bought 4 or 5 pairs for FFX off Amazon for a significantly less than that.  You can also find used pairs on eBay for less as well.
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davent

Quote from: somnif on February 28, 2020, 12:41:39 AM
Here's another option from Erem. 116$ of swiss engineering! https://www.amazon.com/Erem-530E10-040-Cutter-1-0mm/dp/B0012B6MVC



Another $63  US to ship them to Canada... $228 cdn all told.
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davent

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Quote from: pickdropper on February 28, 2020, 04:10:58 AM
Quote from: davent on February 28, 2020, 04:09:45 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 28, 2020, 12:41:39 AM
Here's another option from Erem. 116$ of swiss engineering! https://www.amazon.com/Erem-530E10-040-Cutter-1-0mm/dp/B0012B6MVC



Another $63  US to ship them to Canada... $228 cdn all told.
dave

That's way too much.  Here's a used pair for $25.  Not sure how much they'll charge to ship to Canada:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EREM-530E-Tip-Cutter-Through-hole-soldering-lead-trimming-tool-530E10-1-0mm/182700597310?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dee7e86152f8148efa19661569b63100c%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D273997975321%26itm%3D182700597310%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A3abde067-59e0-11ea-b1bc-74dbd18019fc%7Cparentrq%3A89fce84b1700a4b77cefb990fff3b7e0%7Ciid%3A1

Would you believe $37.40 US for shipping to Canada, things have changed mightily in last few years. And it doesn't end there,

$37.40 USPS Priority Mail International | See details
International shipment of items may be subject to customs processing and additional charges. 

Item location:
Deltona, Florida, United States

dave
"If you always do what you always did- you always get what you always got." - Unknown

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pickdropper

Quote from: davent on February 28, 2020, 04:14:45 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on February 28, 2020, 04:10:58 AM
Quote from: davent on February 28, 2020, 04:09:45 AM
Quote from: somnif on February 28, 2020, 12:41:39 AM
Here's another option from Erem. 116$ of swiss engineering! https://www.amazon.com/Erem-530E10-040-Cutter-1-0mm/dp/B0012B6MVC



Another $63  US to ship them to Canada... $228 cdn all told.
dave

That's way too much.  Here's a used pair for $25.  Not sure how much they'll charge to ship to Canada:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EREM-530E-Tip-Cutter-Through-hole-soldering-lead-trimming-tool-530E10-1-0mm/182700597310?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dee7e86152f8148efa19661569b63100c%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D273997975321%26itm%3D182700597310%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A3abde067-59e0-11ea-b1bc-74dbd18019fc%7Cparentrq%3A89fce84b1700a4b77cefb990fff3b7e0%7Ciid%3A1

Would you believe $37.40 US for shipping to Canada, things have changed mightily in last few years. And it doesn't end there,

$37.40 USPS Priority Mail International | See details
International shipment of items may be subject to customs processing and additional charges. 

Item location:
Deltona, Florida, United States

dave

Yikes, that's a bit steep.
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Timko

Populate board with all of one component type
Cover the component side of the board with that blue tacky stuff from grade school
Snip (do not bend)
Solder
Remove blue tack

HamSandwich

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Quote from: HamSandwich on February 26, 2020, 02:33:35 AM
Quote from: Philthy on February 24, 2020, 11:11:31 PM
Thanks for the replies guys.

Quote from: Aentons on February 24, 2020, 08:49:56 PM
Quote from: HamSandwich on February 24, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
My mind is blown that people snip then solder. I refuse to believe this isn't a dream.

I don't understand how you would even be able to solder without the component falling out if you don't bend the leads

^This is fundamentally why I started the thread. .

We're talking sniping, not bending! Of course you have to bend, unless you use blue tak or similar.

I am sorry Aentons, I didn't mean to come off harsh here and it reads like an over reaction. Apologies.

Aentons

Quote from: HamSandwich
I am sorry Aentons, I didn't mean to come off harsh hear and it reads like an over reaction. Apologies.
It's all good. i was just being goofy and assume same same from everyone else.  ;D

matmosphere

Just got these today. Initial impression is positive but I'll see if I can try them out this week and report back.