Anyone else get the Covid Vaccine?

[peAk]

Sometimes we just need a little nudge...

Haha...

[Aentons]

I originally had a J&J shot back in April and had zero side effects. I got a "booster" Pfizer shot about 6 hours ago and no side effects so far.

My wife was in same situation but got the same pfizer booster last Saturday from the same lot as mine. She did have side effects for almost a whole day... Sore arm, really tired, etc.

[Muadzin]

I heard a good term for this kinda stuff -- "panic porn".

The other thing to remember is that journalists are people, too, with their own deeply held beliefs (whether that is Christian values, or completely open borders, or a love of Marx and Engels), so you should read multiple sources on the same topic, and try to pull together what's going on as an aggregate.

Word! Or avoid the most partisan news sources altogether. Or news altogether. Life is much better once you quit watching the news.

A buddy of mine has fully resisted getting vaccinated because his (mis)understanding was that "you can still get covid and give it to others, so what's the point?". His wife finally threatened to leave him if he didn't. He got vaccinated yesterday.

Oh yeah, emotional blackmail. That marriage is in for the long haul. NOT!

I agree with your overall sentiment, so please don't take this the wrong way... almost no person with a solid understanding of the immune system expected sterilizing immunity any of the CoV2/COVID19 vaccines without high vaccination rates. All vaccines, including those against CoV2, improve immunity thereby resisting infection and reducing symptoms in individuals. The efficacy ranges at the individual level ranges from sterilizing to significantly reduced symptoms (i.e. MASSIVELY decreased risk of hospitalization and death). However, vaccines only reach "sterilizing" at the population level once a large enough proportion of the population has been vaccinated- this is the real concept of herd immunity. CoV2/COVID19 continues to cause problems purely because not enough people chose (when readily available) to be vaccinated and not at all because the vaccine is ineffective.

Actually, your mention of sterilizing effect of the measles vaccine is a great demonstration of what I just said. In 2017, an anti-vaxx sentiment polluted the Somali-American community in Minneapolis. The largest outbreak of measles in 30 years ensued, and ~20% of the 80 new infections were in vaccinated individuals. The same vaccine that provided sterilizing immunity to a population was compromised by a significant number of people that were corrupted by anti-vaccine propaganda.

Oh, I don't take that the wrong way at all.  My (not very well-worded) post wasn't against the efficacy of the vaccine but more about public expectations and the continued distortion of what the vaccine is actually designed to do.

Muad's comment "If they can still lock us down, even though we're vaccinated, then what is the point of getting the jab of an experimental vaccine? It's basically like nothing will ever change." echos a lot of what I've heard people complain about around here.  "Why should I get the vaccine if there are still breakthrough infections" or if there are continued mask mandates or lockdowns, etc.  The vaccine isn't an immediate fix, but it's a significant help as we all work together to bring order out of chaos.  It's just going to be a process and not a switch that gets flipped.

And yes, your measles example is solid.

They want me to wear masks again at the university where I work. Hell no! Back to working at home it is.

I'm starting to think focusing on a vaccine was the wrong strategy altogether. Because this thing keeps on mutating faster then John Carpenter's The Thing. It's like trying to come up with a vaccine to the common cold. Maybe pouring in all that money on a medicine would have been better? One that mitigates and shortens the effecst. So you can call in at work:
Hey boss, I got corona today.
Okay, you know what to do. Take 2 pills and come back next week.

One thing I do know, Australia and New Zealand are showing us what to expect for the winter, just like they did last winter. Expect a lot more lockdowns to come and more repression and shaming to get you to do what the PtB want you to do. And divide and conquer of course. Have the vaccinated be angry at the non-vaccinated. Instead of the real culprits, the airlines, who keep on flying all these variants all over the world.

[slacker775]

Wait, instead of focusing on a vaccine, they should have worked on NyQuil for Covid?  The whole point of the vaccine is to reduce the spread so the mutations stop forming, effectively wiping the thing out.  It could have little flare ups that quickly get stomped out but it becomes just a minor annoyance at worst.

The current vaccines as-is are doing a pretty remarkable job with the variants that have developed.  That may not always be the case, but the more people that get vaccinated helps prevent further mutations from gaining any real traction.

[DLW]

I heard a good term for this kinda stuff -- "panic porn".

The other thing to remember is that journalists are people, too, with their own deeply held beliefs (whether that is Christian values, or completely open borders, or a love of Marx and Engels), so you should read multiple sources on the same topic, and try to pull together what's going on as an aggregate.

Word! Or avoid the most partisan news sources altogether. Or news altogether. Life is much better once you quit watching the news.

A buddy of mine has fully resisted getting vaccinated because his (mis)understanding was that "you can still get covid and give it to others, so what's the point?". His wife finally threatened to leave him if he didn't. He got vaccinated yesterday.

Oh yeah, emotional blackmail. That marriage is in for the long haul. NOT!

I agree with your overall sentiment, so please don't take this the wrong way... almost no person with a solid understanding of the immune system expected sterilizing immunity any of the CoV2/COVID19 vaccines without high vaccination rates. All vaccines, including those against CoV2, improve immunity thereby resisting infection and reducing symptoms in individuals. The efficacy ranges at the individual level ranges from sterilizing to significantly reduced symptoms (i.e. MASSIVELY decreased risk of hospitalization and death). However, vaccines only reach "sterilizing" at the population level once a large enough proportion of the population has been vaccinated- this is the real concept of herd immunity. CoV2/COVID19 continues to cause problems purely because not enough people chose (when readily available) to be vaccinated and not at all because the vaccine is ineffective.

Actually, your mention of sterilizing effect of the measles vaccine is a great demonstration of what I just said. In 2017, an anti-vaxx sentiment polluted the Somali-American community in Minneapolis. The largest outbreak of measles in 30 years ensued, and ~20% of the 80 new infections were in vaccinated individuals. The same vaccine that provided sterilizing immunity to a population was compromised by a significant number of people that were corrupted by anti-vaccine propaganda.

Oh, I don't take that the wrong way at all.  My (not very well-worded) post wasn't against the efficacy of the vaccine but more about public expectations and the continued distortion of what the vaccine is actually designed to do.

Muad's comment "If they can still lock us down, even though we're vaccinated, then what is the point of getting the jab of an experimental vaccine? It's basically like nothing will ever change." echos a lot of what I've heard people complain about around here.  "Why should I get the vaccine if there are still breakthrough infections" or if there are continued mask mandates or lockdowns, etc.  The vaccine isn't an immediate fix, but it's a significant help as we all work together to bring order out of chaos.  It's just going to be a process and not a switch that gets flipped.

And yes, your measles example is solid.

They want me to wear masks again at the university where I work. Hell no! Back to working at home it is.

I'm starting to think focusing on a vaccine was the wrong strategy altogether. Because this thing keeps on mutating faster then John Carpenter's The Thing. It's like trying to come up with a vaccine to the common cold. Maybe pouring in all that money on a medicine would have been better? One that mitigates and shortens the effecst. So you can call in at work:
Hey boss, I got corona today.
Okay, you know what to do. Take 2 pills and come back next week.

One thing I do know, Australia and New Zealand are showing us what to expect for the winter, just like they did last winter. Expect a lot more lockdowns to come and more repression and shaming to get you to do what the PtB want you to do. And divide and conquer of course. Have the vaccinated be angry at the non-vaccinated. Instead of the real culprits, the airlines, who keep on flying all these variants all over the world.

You are 5x more likely to be infected and 29x more likely to be hospitalized with COVID19 if you have not been vaccinated.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e5.htm

The vaccine is remarkably effective against CoV2 variants, and the only reason COVID19 continues to cause problems is due to people not having access to vaccines or refusing vaccination. Full stop. Your opinion is uninformed and dangerously misguided.

[madbean]

I'd rather this discussion keep to the topic without straying into debate. The vaccine is very safe and currently our best tool for fighting the pandemic. Plenty of other places where other arguments can take place.

[matmosphere]

I got the vaccine a while ago as did my wife and many, many siblings, aunts, uncles, in-laws, cousins, nephews, and nieces and a shitload of friends with ages between 12 and 80. No one I have talked with who has taken the vaccine has had any side effects other that maybe being sleepy for a day or some sniffles. Of those roughly sixty or seventy friends and family none of them knew anyone who had serious side effects from the vaccine either.

A few people I know had COVID-19, fortunately no one amount them died, but several of them got very sick for a couple weeks.

My old band mate from Ohio did report one positive side effect of the vaccine, being able to practice without mask again. I even talked to some people who had both played and been to shows.

[peAk]

My wife won't get the vaccine

Super frustrating but I have given up. It's a battle that I can't fight anymore.

We have a great relationship and have been married for about 14 years. This is the first big thing that we just can't see eye to eye on.

So far I have held off getting our 13 year old vaccinated because that's a big battle too.

Oh...how I miss life pre pandemic

[gordo]

Yeesh, sorry to hear that peak. My wife's a nurse and it's surprising how many in the medical community won't get it.  It's as polarizing as politics.

My employer wants me to be vaxxed (doesn't require it) and wants me to wear a mask. I'd do both anyway, and as long as the check clears I'm quite happy to oblige.

[EBK]

A positive COVID-19 case has reached my kids' elementary school.  I'm freaking out a bit.

[matmosphere]

A positive COVID-19 case has reached my kids' elementary school.  I'm freaking out a bit.

Bummer, I'm sure things will be alright though. Just remember the vast majority of kids aren't having any serious problems.

[slacker775]

I get emails every other day that somebody tested positive in either of my high-schoolers classes.   Thankfully they are vaxxed and haven't had any issues.  If they were in elementary still and couldn't get vaxxed, I'd be a lot more concerned.

[Aentons]

A positive COVID-19 case has reached my kids' elementary school.  I'm freaking out a bit.

Bummer, I'm sure things will be alright though. Just remember the vast majority of kids aren't having any serious problems.

They had 29 new cases at my kids elementary school yesterday

[madbean]

Our county is shutting down all schools next week (not even remote classes) due to the number of new cases in students and teachers. Of course, we have no mask mandate either.

[jimilee]

Our county is shutting down all schools next week (not even remote classes) due to the number of new cases in students and teachers. Of course, we have no mask mandate either.

I wish ours would. They are off Monday for the HOliday and then Tuesday and Wednesday. The King of TN took away the funding for remote learning. There are mask mandates in schools, which can conveniently be opted out by students, which really makes it into a joke. Again, the King of TN said as long as a vaccine is available, a mask mandate won't be implemented. I'm no fan of too much government, but apparently, we as a people aren't responsible enough to adult responsibly. This is just irritating. I want to get out and go do things with other people, except go to work, that I want to do from home. There are still mask mandate protests happening here, where there is no mask mandate. /rant